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Old 06-11-2005, 10:00 PM   #16
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1./ Number of LQ posts does equate to actual linux knowledge
lots of people here with less posts know more than I

2./ I try to help out where I can - most people here do too
I'm a gui freak not a CLI guru

3./ have slow dial-up connection ( not everyone has adsl )
internet updates and programme downloads are not real option
and yes I have been to
http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
sigh
oh for broadband

live long and prosper
floppy
 
Old 06-11-2005, 10:57 PM   #17
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Originally posted by floppywhopper 3./ have slow dial-up connection ( not everyone has adsl )
internet updates and programme downloads are not real option
and yes I have been to
http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
sigh
oh for broadband [/B]
I posted the "ps" because I was actually uncertain if you were asking or afirming (I'm brazilian, I do not speak english natively).

I know urpmi will atempt to do 28MB download of the list of packages to install ..... but you can still download individual packages from the internet and use "rpm -Uvh <package>" (are individual packages still too big?).

Google "rpmfind". Places with lots of rpms for download help solve the "dependency hell".

Hope I did not offend you ^^

Felipe
 
Old 06-12-2005, 06:17 AM   #18
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No, I'm not offended
There are many on this site for whom English is not their native language

I'm following this question closely because I'm wondering the same thing ...
Is it worth the upgrade ...

Thats why I ask - is ??? package included
because like many who are in a similar position
I get most of my distro's off the covers of magazines and where possible I can order if I think the distro is going to meet my needs and wants. In fact 2005LE will be on the cover of Linux Format mag arriving in my local shop in a month or so, even though its been out in the UK for a month or two.

I envy those who can download iso's or updates over the net.

live long and prosper
floppy
 
Old 06-12-2005, 01:46 PM   #19
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Quote:
Originally posted by floppywhopper
I'm following this question closely because I'm wondering the same thing ...
Is it worth the upgrade ...

Thats why I ask - is ??? package included
because like many who are in a similar position
I get most of my distro's off the covers of magazines and where possible I can order if I think the distro is going to meet my needs and wants. In fact 2005LE will be on the cover of Linux Format mag arriving in my local shop in a month or so, even though its been out in the UK for a month or two.[/B]
I must say that LE is much, much more stable. Also be carefull because those magazines usually strip the distribution down to fit in 1 CD and thus you would be left without those software =( . It looks to me that you should use the 3 CDs that compose the distro because this will give you lot's and lot's of software. If the magazine doesn't come with 3 CDs then try some of the places that sell CDs over the net (I think that LQ has a list of such places somewhere...)

The 3 CD set comes with so much software that I ofter think: I would like to use software x (gftp / gaim / vnc / mozilla composer / etc) Where can I install it? - And then I end up finding out that it was already installed and is on my menu :^)

The Limited Edition has a problem however .... it will put a very scary penguin with stars on the eye everywhere ^_^ But nothing that you can't correct costumizing your wallpaper / logon screen.
 
Old 06-13-2005, 03:03 PM   #20
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Linux Format comes with 3 CDs or one DVD, IIRC. (I normally pick up the DVD version.) But it *might* come with just CD#1 of Mandriva, with any other CDs holding the other stuff from the mag. I do know that if you get the DVD, you get 3 full CDs worth of Mandriva. (I just picked it up last week here in the US. )

IMO, it is worth it to upgrade. In your position, maybe not. You'll have to decide for yourself. FWIW, even with dial-up, I think I would set up my urpmi mirrors for security updates. For instance, the version of FireFox on the DVD is 1.02. The security updates to make it 1.04 are available in urpmi (but they leave the version numbered 1.02 ).

Quote:
Originally posted by sekelsenmat
The Limited Edition has a problem however .... it will put a very scary penguin with stars on the eye everywhere ^_^ But nothing that you can't correct costumizing your wallpaper / logon screen.
Thank God for being able to customize! That penguin is SCARY!
:lol:
 
Old 06-13-2005, 07:19 PM   #21
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Yeah I get the DVD version when I can ( most times )
tried 10.1 community
great although it had its printer setup wizard disabled
aaarrrgh

.... so the Penguin is scary
what more than a dancing paper clip LOL
I dont think so

Padma
will take your advice about the security
I heard about FF 1.02

live long and prosper
floppy
 
Old 06-28-2005, 01:40 AM   #22
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I upgraded from 10.1to LE2005, but in my opinion, there is not much difference/
I'd just stay with 10.1
 
Old 06-29-2005, 03:08 AM   #23
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QUOTE
I know urpmi will atempt to do 28MB download of the list of packages to install ....
End Quote.

you can add the word " synthesis. " before the last word of the string.

urpmi.addmedia .........10.2/i586/media/main/ with ./media_info/hdlist.cz
becomes
urpmi.addmedia...........10.2/i586/media/main/ with ./media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz
the list will be 10x shorter, but a lot of info will be missing.
I always use the short one.
 
Old 07-02-2005, 03:06 AM   #24
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I've just upgraded Mandrake 9.2 to Mandrake 10.2 (Mandriva Limited Edition 2005) and the whole thing has ground to a halt. I get the blue screen up with a little hourglass slowly rotating, and nothing else. If I reboot, sometimes I get as far as the logon screen, but then when I log in I get the hourglass thing again.

One time I managed to login in as root, and then when I logged out and logged in as a user it seemed to work OK.

10.2 install also seems to have screwed up my samba setting, I can see my home directory from a Windoze machine, but there are no files showing.
 
Old 07-02-2005, 04:51 AM   #25
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I am sorry your whole thing got screwed up, but I never have recommended upgrading to any one, and certainly not 3 version numbers.

As far as I learned from their forums, it is far safer to backup your "" whatever "" files, do a clean install ( you can keep /home ) and try to re-install the files you have backed up.

Personally, I do the above, but reconfigure all ....again!
Takes some work, but is safe.

btw, the Mandriva Limited Edition 2005 does NOT contain KDE3.4, as many think.
The clubmember release from a month ago does have KDE3.4, but there is no support for this particular release, so don't use it as a permanent think.
The next stable release will be around 15 September,

sorry, can't help you with your particular problem, as I am also new .
 
Old 07-02-2005, 06:10 AM   #26
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well 2005LE arrived on my Linux format mag in DVD form.
sigh
I got up early to load it onto mrs floppy's machine
oh god never again
wouldn't shutdown
couldn't configure printer
a few other niggles etc etc
never again !!
couln't reload 10.0 fast enough
( mrs floppy was looking for something to throw )
I guess the moral of the story
if it ain't broke
don't fix it
and I'm glad someone warned me about that penguin
holy cow that was ugly

floppy
 
Old 07-02-2005, 06:50 AM   #27
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ell 2005LE arrived on my Linux format mag in DVD form.

this is not to discredit the people who copied the DVD and bundled it with your magazine,
but I have seen many reports on forums that these CDs and DVDs are often faulty and even manipulated.

So, if there was a way to do a checksum on the CD ( not the ISO ) you could verify if the DVD was OK.
Reason for bringing this up is the following:
I had many times myself that I burned a checked ISO to a cheap CD, and guess what?
errors during installation !!
worse....no error message, but shit install.results.

Please note, I am not trowing mud at any one, just saying that the media should be checked before.
Yeah....I know....I expect it to be alright !
Me too, but.................!
 
Old 07-03-2005, 04:20 PM   #28
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Quote:
Originally posted by Padma That penguin is SCARY!
:lol: [/B]
It's kinda cute though.
 
Old 07-03-2005, 07:49 PM   #29
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My own experience with LE 2005 so far has been a disaster. Actually, it worked all right until I downloaded the bug fixes. Mandrake 10.1 was working fairly well, altho I had chronic problems with the sound card. I installed LE 2005 - the sound card worked fine. In fact, everything else seemed fine. Then I downloaded the bug fixes. Now I have nothing but bugs. I can not access my floppy drive. When I click on the cdrom icon, it opens The Gimp! When I try to navigate the file system using Konqueror, it keeps trying open The Gimp. The sound card disappeared altogether. In short, it's a total mess. BTW, when I tried to download the security patches they wouldn't install due to "bad signature." I tried re-installing from CD, to no avail. At this point, I throw up my hands in despair. Looks like the only way I can continue using Mandrake is to re-format the Linxu partitions & start over. Has anyone else had a similar experience?
 
Old 07-03-2005, 08:37 PM   #30
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I upgraded from 10.1 Commnity to Le2005 using URPMI. I used easy urpmi to set my sources to le2005 than in console urpmi --auto-select. After this finished i installed the latest Kernel . All worked ok

Regards
Sharke
 
  


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