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Old 03-18-2005, 03:52 PM   #1
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10.0 or 10.1?


Linux.iso has both version 10.0 and version 10.1. Next to 10.1 it says Beta. I'm wondering does that mean version 10.0 would be more tried and tested and true and be a better choice, or is version 10.1 just as good and maybe better?
 
Old 03-18-2005, 04:00 PM   #2
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Hi,
Both are good, 10.1 is more easily configurable, perhaps.
Recognized more easily my ADSL connection.
Why don't you wait a little and install the soon to be
released 10.2, with the latest kernel ?

Cheers
 
Old 03-18-2005, 04:00 PM   #3
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10.1 Official is available directly from Mandrake. That Beta 1 notation may be for either Cooker or Community.
 
Old 03-18-2005, 06:54 PM   #4
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10.1 Download edition is available from most Mandrake repositories....
 
Old 03-18-2005, 09:52 PM   #5
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I'd rather not download it from the Mandrake web site cuz you have to pay $50.00 for it. And for me there is no guarantee that Linux will work once it's installed.
 
Old 03-18-2005, 09:55 PM   #6
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Who said you have to pay?

I said that the ISO's are available from most of the repositories.

The "repositories" are FREE FTP sites.

Check my sig for instructions on setting up URPMI.

Fill out the URPMI information page.

When you get to the screen that tells you what to enter into a console, save the FTP sites it gives you.

ALL of these are FREE anonymous FTP sites which you can access with any browser or FTP client.

Climb the tree and you'll find the ISO's as well ready to burn...
 
Old 03-18-2005, 10:07 PM   #7
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If you choose to download from the Mandrake Soft web site you do have to pay. But I found that Linux.iso has Mandrake and so does the Linux Mirror Project. Now what is the difference between "community download" and "official download"?

As far as that urpmi stuff goes it looks like that has something to do with adding software to your machine? From what I've seen with these various Linux Live CD's it appears that most distros come with some text editors, a word processing program, a cd burning program, an email program, and a browser so the only program that I can think of that I might need to install is a file sharing program that I can download MP3's.
 
Old 03-18-2005, 10:14 PM   #8
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No, you don't have to pay for the free download edition.

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3
Click on 'Download without Mandrakeclub benefits'.
Scroll down. Click on 'Download via Public Mirrors (3 CD only version)'.
Click on your choice of download, probably 'Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official ISOs/i586'. (Or just scroll down half a page to that heading.)
Scroll down to your country of choice, and select a mirror. Click on mirror.
Download what you want... 3 CDs or single DVD. Or both if you just feel like wasting bandwidth.
Check md5sums after download to confirm file integrity.

opjose has you doing the same thing, just not going through the Mandrake site. They're all the same mirrors. Not only that, but he's getting you acquainted with the Mandraker's friend, urpmi.


The only reason you'd pay for Mandrake is if you wanted the box pack, or the fourth CD, or you like them and want to support them financially. Probably the same with Redhat, Suse, and the other "name brands".
 
Old 03-18-2005, 10:20 PM   #9
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357, opjose or the others can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd say Official is just what it says: the official release version. It's like the Windows version that gets put on the store shelf. Community would be like Beta, or RC2, or something like that: pre-public release. Cooker would be alpha, or development version, or early testing. Hmm, that's actually kind of like all versions of Windows, so maybe not a good analogy there.
 
Old 03-18-2005, 10:41 PM   #10
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Actually the Download edition is pretty much the same thing as the "Official" version... provided you set up your urpmi sources and perform any updates.

Where the "Official" version varies is that it usually will include "Commercial" (cough... lie...) software...

This includes

Nvidia Drivers (downloadable)
ATI Drivers (downloadable)
Realplayer (downloadable)
ndiswrapper (downloadable)

Get the picture?

Official merely includes RPM's for the above items.

For most of these the first thing you do anyway is replace them...


357mag You couldn't be more wrong about "urpmi".


It's more analogous to Debian's Apt-get...

Consider the 3 CD downloads the "first part" of the operating system...

What you get via URPMI is "the rest"... including a VAST amount of application software, updates, improvements, etc.
 
Old 03-18-2005, 10:51 PM   #11
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Thanks for that clarification, opjose. I hadn't considered a difference between download and Official.
 
Old 03-18-2005, 11:41 PM   #12
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So if I install Mandrake 10.1 and I want to check for operating system updates and bug fixes and hot fixes and service packs and the like what would I need to do?
 
Old 03-18-2005, 11:55 PM   #13
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..everything is automated (for the most part) in Mandrake. 10.1 is no longer in beta, but 10.2 is. Do some reading up on how to update. It's very simple!
 
Old 03-19-2005, 01:10 AM   #14
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If you are getting 10.1 and don't have the internet on it then get 10.0
I found this out recently, 10.1 CE has gcc-4.1.3-4mdk and you can't find a gcc-c++ package for it with the same version. !!!!
That is if you want to compile c++
 
Old 03-19-2005, 02:24 PM   #15
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So if the Mandrake update process is pretty much automated than what is opjose talking about? In order to update my Mandrake operating system do I need to install urpmi then? Or is there already a button you press that will search for updates to Mandrake after you install the operating system? I've read that stuff on that zebulon site several times but I really don't understand it.

And what do you mean "if you're getting 10.1 and don't have the internet on it?" I've used the Mandrake Move CD and it did successfully set up my internet connection, so I'm just assuming if I install 10.1 that too will automatically detect my internet connection. Are you saying that 10.1 might not detect my internet connection?

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