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Old 10-16-2009, 06:04 AM   #16
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If I post a question in this virtual forum, will it be transparently passed to the underlying host forum for processing?
Old 10-16-2009, 08:43 AM   #17
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Just as a note, here's how virtualization played out in the 2008 Members Choice Awards:

Old 10-16-2009, 09:14 AM   #18
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I very much look forward to such a topic as virtualization involving topics of Linux as either a guest to another OS, or as the host to another OS, or Linux hosting Linux. How could the forum exclude even Hyper-V. Consider Hyper-V with a Linux distribution as the guest with the installation of XEN on the Linux guest to presumably get better performance of the Linux guest on Hyper-V.

Old 10-16-2009, 09:34 AM   #19
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Rrasy-What is virtualization used for?

Sounds to me like you have a pretty good machine for a noob. I have been at it since 1982.

Anyway, I started out with VMware and found resources pretty slammed on both Host and Guest. And the virtualized switches (NICS) utilizing resources (IP's, ram, etc. etc) even when not running a guest are something else to deal with. And Virtual PC appears to have to run on a Windows Host!

So I have moved to VirtualBox- Running on 64 bit Ubuntu 9.04 and WinXP Guest at work and Virtualbox - Running on 32 bit Ubuntu 9.04 and WinXP/Vista Ultimate Guests at home. Linux/ubuntu hosts do not require all the resources the Microsoft counterpart do.

Why you say? I still cannot run my games from Windows on the virtualized guest (the OpenGL/DirectX thingy), but I can still run OpenOffice , Office, Anti-Virus, Firewall, Network Management softwares made only for Windblows. So I get the best of both worlds. And as a network Administrator, I can investigate issues on two platforms. Its a challange and I get to learn something new every day.

Maybe at some point I will look into Fedora and/or Suse Linux guests and find I like those systems better. As long as I can use open source and do the same things (but in a different way), and utilize the paid for operating systems/software - I will continue with virtualization.

Nuff said!
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:39 PM   #20
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Hello everyone, I am jucas1961 from Italy,
I want to apologize for my English in school. I just installed linux (Ubuntu) on an iMac running VMware Fusion and it seems to work well. Then I installed Kaffeine with a broadcast reciver USB. So I'm a beginner.
I am very pleased to have joined this discussion forum.
greeting from Italy.
Old 10-16-2009, 12:48 PM   #21
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Well I really would not like to field questions that do not deal with open source.
I am running Win 7 and blah blah. or I am running uname -a and my win7 has this problem.
This is my point of view. I am sure there are people that think running linux in vm on
proprietary O/S is real good. But from a open source world this really is a set back.
Thank you

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Old 10-17-2009, 12:22 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Drakeo View Post
I am sure there are people that think running linux in vm on proprietary O/S is real good. But from a open source world this really is a set back.
I also disapprove of the use of proprietary software.

But in the real world there are plenty of companies that foolishly demand their employees use insecure operating systems like Windows. Also, sometimes only proprietary Windows software exists for some task, and it may not run under Wine.

In such cases, using a VM to bring in a partial Linux solution is an improvement.
Old 10-18-2009, 03:31 PM   #23
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I'm in the position of having to use software that will only run under Windows, specifically Quickbooks for accounting (historical continuity essential) and Lightroom for RAW processing (it's a brilliant piece of software, essential for my work). My son, who actually looks after all the IT needs for our business, persuaded me to try Virtual Box for the Windows stuff. I love using Ubuntu so this is a great solution.

There have been some hiccups along the way, Windows sulks from time to time and our printers aren't supported on Linux. Our Canon i9950 now runs under TurboPrint on Linux, and is 'installed' on XP, but our Canon ipf5000 can only run in XP. But the whole system is faster and more secure, and TurboPrint gives a higher quality print output than Canon's own driver!

The best image viewer bar none, in my opinion, is Irfanview, which runs under Wine. Now, if only Irfan could be persuaded to produce a Linux version...
Old 10-19-2009, 02:05 AM   #24
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Wink Great idea!

Me too, folks. Been wrassling with QEMU / KVM in Ubuntu LTS 8.04.x (mostly) since 9.04 breaks the Intel graphics on this laptop.

Finally acheived a l o n g - a w a i t e d ambition in February when XP ran cleanly and a flurry of small apps that would not WINE well ran inside a safe Linux machine for the first time - a first for me, anyway.

@Drakeo, @KenJackson - yes indeedy, the ideal situation is to use VMs as above, but humans being perverse and curious, my hope is that there will be a trickle of Win hosts migrating to Linux hosting of Windows that grows into a steady stream, eventually.

Doncha just love seeing Windows where it belongs - inside a window?

All the best, and thanks to LQ! Ben
Old 10-19-2009, 08:38 AM   #25
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Good forum. I do alot of testing using virtualbox
Old 10-19-2009, 05:28 PM   #26
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Sweet new forum! Been a huge fan of LQ for a long time... even more so now.
Old 10-19-2009, 05:48 PM   #27
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I've just started using KVM, I bet this forum will be an interesting addition to LQ. And I just posted my first question...heh.

thankx Jeremy
Old 10-20-2009, 11:24 AM   #28
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Thumbs up Linux-Virt is great!

I start with VMware Workstation, but then i tried vmware-server and i love it!

I test Virtual Box but it did not convinced me, i went back to vmware-server.

Then i tried OpenVZ, and i like it, more than vmware-server, specially because it does not virtualice the hardware, so it is more stable, fast and relieable, also is based on containers, so they are isolate guest OS. I am using VMware-server and OpenVZ, The both are great and the best in virtualization topics.

Now a full and complex scenario can be done with both options, if you need compatibility for others OS than GNU/Linux, vmware-server makes the great complement to do that task.

Have fun!
Old 10-28-2009, 03:59 AM   #29
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welcome , good idea now we can learn about that subject , many thanks for your effort
Old 11-01-2009, 03:03 PM   #30
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Thanks Jeremy, This is a(nother) great idea.

I have been using Vbox, Linux host, for a few years now and still have questions from time to time,

I have some hardware similar to some others that have posted here, and may be able to contribute if problems or queries arise.

I use vbox to run a winxp guest, mainly for a particular game that was made redundant with the introduction of the agp bus and drivers (as I understand it). It runs well in vbox.

I also use it for a sandbox to test web page design (warning, newb!) compatibility with iexplore. <edit> It's nice to not have to reboot for that</edit>

Thanks Heaps, Glenn

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