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Old 04-18-2006, 02:24 AM   #1
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WINE seems good to play solitaire, that's about it tho for me sigh :(


I'm 2 month linux noob keep in mind

The only thing I can get to work right is solitaire. Seems to me that's about the only app wine is good for imo.

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Old 04-18-2006, 02:32 AM   #2
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yeah, try a dual boot system.
 
Old 04-18-2006, 03:26 PM   #3
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I have had great success with slackware 10.2 and wine-0.9.12 however that could just be luck.Specifically which programs don't run properly?
 
Old 04-18-2006, 04:20 PM   #4
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Pretty much the only thing that is still pending in Wine development is the .NET framework. Theoretically, you should be able to get just about any win32 app to work in the current version of wine. The downside is, it is very hard to configure and tweak your program into running if you are new to linux. Don't give up on wine yet, it is a very powerful program. You just need to do more reading and ask specific questions on programs you are having trouble with.

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Old 04-18-2006, 04:26 PM   #5
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Hey, install a package called "winetools"

http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/

with it, you can install a lot of windows system software that many windows programs depend on. Then you can run more stuff in wine.
 
Old 04-21-2006, 05:27 AM   #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodak
Specifically which programs don't run properly?
I'm still in the stage of loading pc's, getting them to work right, and be secure. There is only just soo much time in the day.

So far the open office and the abiword, and the KDE app's are more than sufficient for my needs. Why openoffice is such a resource hog I'll never know, but that's another issue for another day I guess.

I really wish people when they make a site would say to themselves, "If I were a noob, what questions would I have, and how should I design my site that a noob and an experienced user get something valuable out of my site and services." These people put so much of their valuable time into making good software, but so little into making a good informative site that a noob like me, can go there learn, fall in love with their software and then paypal them a donation. It's so counter productive.

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Hey, install a package called "winetools"
I did not install them. I got the impression from the "wine" website that use of that program doesnt really follow the "wine" protocol and is not recommended.

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Old 04-21-2006, 07:58 AM   #7
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I thought I was maybe doing something wrong with my loading of wine on slackware. So I downloaded the "point click and wait forever" SUSE because it's preloaded with it but still no luck. So that's why I was just thinking of using the emulation app's.
The version of Wine that's shipped with Suse is pretty old; you really need to get the latest version to make everything work nicely.

I don't use it much, but I do need to use MSIE to test the web pages I write. I wasn't able to make it work with the version of Wine shipped with Suse, but once I'd updated to the latest version, MSIE runs perfectly (unless I try to copy+paste text, at which point it bombs spectacularly, but I can live with that )

The couple of other apps I've tried have also worked without much hassle, but most of them are small programs; nothing like the sorts of things you're trying to run.
 
Old 04-21-2006, 09:05 AM   #8
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If it's any help, this is how I've got problem apps to work in wine (google earth eg)

Hopefully progs installed ok, if not then follow same pattern as to running.


Run the prog in a terminal and watch output. Hopefully in will give an error about a dll - either not found or malfunctioning.

Google the dll name and you will find a few links to sites where you can download dll for free

Fetch said dll and copy to either windows/system or system32 dir, or even both.

Boot up winecfg and add your app in app tab.

Things to try next are changing windows version for your app (one version may work)

On dll overrieds tab, type in name of dll and try settings for 'native' and 'built in'. Experiment a bit. At this stage you are trying to get past the error and on to the next.

Run program again and note next error.

Repeat steps above until program works.


Also winehq have a good list of how people have got various apps to work, so it's worth checking there also.
 
Old 04-21-2006, 11:17 AM   #9
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The most important thing is to load up DCOM98, and there are a few other things that you must do for Wine to work well. I run lots of programs, including my Quickbooks and Quicken, as well as I prefer Ifranview to any of the Linux jpg viewers. I also run the NES emulator Nesticle (that's right, an "emulator" running an emulator).

It works, but it does take some setting up. If you don't want to bother, try CrossOver Office... for $35, it will setup up everything without a hitch, works very well, and even has a free trial.

--Kris
 
Old 05-01-2006, 10:29 PM   #10
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I cant get this to work at all. I installed slack package latest tonight. Put it in. ran winecfg and I got the config menu then exited.

So frustrating.

Am I just better off, dumping my entire hard drive, putting in windows 98 second edition on hda1 and then load in my slackware on hda2 and compile wine from source?

I wouldnt need wine toools then right?

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Old 05-02-2006, 07:28 AM   #11
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Well, the first question would be, are you connected to the internet?

All winetools does is connect to the internet and start downloading, and then changing some registry information. The first thing it does is goes to download some ms truetype fonts, so the screen can get rid of that ugly slant. If you aren't connected, its' not going to do anything.

That's my guess on what happened.

Wine is a little tricky to setup. NO harder than slackware, but like slackware, some reading is necessary.

I didn't even use Winetools... it has to match the version you are using, or things get wonky.
 
Old 05-02-2006, 10:44 AM   #12
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right now I'm running a make...make install from source. i loaded in windows 98 second edition on hda2 and my linux is on hda6.

the faq section says to edit wine.config to tell it you have an existing windows drive, but when I had the packaged version of wine i could not find this wine.config file. i hope it makes one here when i am done compiling.

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Old 05-03-2006, 12:27 AM   #13
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no luck it appears that wine.config has been removed, and that wine does NOT want you to use windows on a partition alongside. been googling for hours.

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Old 05-03-2006, 07:14 AM   #14
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That's the problem with the internet, and many linux things... old information hangs around in droves.

There is no wine.config. Many revisions ago, they dropped that section entirely. Everything happens in a wine registry, like a windows registry.

To add drives, run winecfg, and there should be a tab to add drives, or just hit autoconfig, which is what I did for my many partitions.

As for your fonts, you can copy all of your win 98 partiton fonts and drag them into your wine c drives folder, windows/fonts and that will take care of that problem for you.
 
Old 05-03-2006, 10:46 AM   #15
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hi kirsbee, when you say add drives in winecfg, that only adds the partitions for me so that if i'm in a program in wine I can see the drive. It doesnt seem to even see the windows 98 partition as windows. It seems that is obsolete too right?

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