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Old 04-08-2016, 12:25 PM   #1
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Trying to restore fedora boot progress bar; plymouth? charge?


I'd prefer to have the old three color boot progress bar over the fedora logo that slowly fills with white until the fedora logo flashes in color.

The website below led me to think this has something to do with a program called "plymouth".

http://jadelinux.com/fedoratips/plymouth.html

I have installed several plymouth themes from the repositories. I believe the theme I want is called "charge", so I set it as the plymouth default theme.

Code:
# plymouth-set-default-theme -l
charge
details
fade-in
hot-dog
script
solar
spinfinity
spinner
text
# plymouth-set-default-theme
charge
As the website above suggested, I ran:
Code:
# /usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd
which churned for a while. Since this is a UEFI computer, I ran:
Code:
# grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.5-300.fc23.x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd-4.4.5-300.fc23.x86_64.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.3-300.fc23.x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-4.2.3-300.fc23.x86_64.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.5-300.fc23.x86_64+debug
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-4.4.5-300.fc23.x86_64+debug.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64+debug
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64+debug.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-0-rescue-349d4c23a67040729d8f1054c8478b47
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-0-rescue-349d4c23a67040729d8f1054c8478b47.img
Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda1@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
done
However, when I reboot, I still get the little fedora logo in the middle which slowly fills with white. What am I doing wrong?
 
Old 04-09-2016, 01:11 AM   #2
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did you by chance replace the Nouveau driver with the nvidia driver ?
 
Old 04-09-2016, 07:56 AM   #3
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did you by chance replace the Nouveau driver with the nvidia driver ?
I think the answer is no. I'm positive I did not intentionally download the nVidia driver. For that matter, I do not believe this HP Pavilion 17-G161US even has a separate GPU, nVidia or otherwise. I'm pretty sure all the video is handled by the i3 CPU.

I guess I used the wrong word when I said "restore" in the thread title. This laptop never had the dark blue/light blue/white boot progress bar I'm seeking to install.

However, my old Dell laptop did have this progress bar and I'm sure it had an ATI GPU. However, I had an earlier version of Fedora installed on it.
 
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You can check with the server distribution. That one still uses the older boot screen. I'm not sure which packages it uses for that, but it is part of plymouth.
 
Old 04-10-2016, 04:40 AM   #5
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You can check with the server distribution. That one still uses the older boot screen. I'm not sure which packages it uses for that, but it is part of plymouth.
Can you please be more specific? I thought my distribution was fedora 23. Are you telling me there is a fedora 23 server variant distribution?
 
Old 04-10-2016, 04:45 AM   #6
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Further information: I did a dnf update which installed the 4.4.6-300.fc23.x86_64 kernel. I was hoping this update would pick up the plymouth default theme I chose, but the boot screen still shows the little fedora logo instead of the progress bar I want.
 
Old 04-10-2016, 06:16 AM   #7
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Can you please be more specific? I thought my distribution was fedora 23. Are you telling me there is a fedora 23 server variant distribution?
Yes - fedora server: https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/

Once installed you can add all the desktop stuff you want. You will need to install one of the display managers to get a GUI login.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 09:53 AM   #8
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Yes - fedora server: https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/

Once installed you can add all the desktop stuff you want. You will need to install one of the display managers to get a GUI login.
Does this entail a complete reinstall or is there some shortcut way to get this "desktop stuff"?
 
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Look at the package groups available. Last time I looked, each desktop was a package group that could be installed in one specification.

The display login manager is not included as part of these groups though. To get one of those you have to pick one (and there are several -gdm, kdm, and others).
 
Old 04-20-2016, 10:52 PM   #10
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Look at the package groups available. Last time I looked, each desktop was a package group that could be installed in one specification.

The display login manager is not included as part of these groups though. To get one of those you have to pick one (and there are several -gdm, kdm, and others).
Could you be talking about a desktop such as mate? I have the mate desktop installed and have been using it for a while now because I can't stand gnome3. However, if I'm not mistaken, I chose mate at the sign on screen well after the boot process has finished. By the time I see the sign in screen, the progress bar I'd like to install would be long finished. Further, I like mate and would much rather see the default logo thingy during boot than give up mate to get the pretty progress bar.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 05:54 AM   #11
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look at the package groups.

Anything you want is still there.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 08:33 AM   #12
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look at the package groups.

Anything you want is still there.
I'm sorry to be so dense, but I need your instructions to be far more specific. Please assume I'm a rank newbie and haven't got the slightest clue what I'm doing. In other words, tell me to type "this", then type "that".

I'm looking at Yum Extender. I clicked on the "groups" radio button. It lists:
Code:
Applications
Base System
Cinnamon Desktop
Content
Development
GNOME Desktop
KDE Desktop
LXDE Desktop
LXQt Desktop
MATE Desktop
Servers
Sugar Desktop Environment
Xfce Desktop
When I click on the arrow next to "Servers" there are 27 servers listed. They include DNS Name Server, FTP Server, Mail Server, News Server, and 23 other servers. I certainly don't know for sure, but I really don't think this is what you had in mind. I did not see any listing of plymouth under any of the groups. I checked every group from Applications to Xfce.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 09:28 AM   #13
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What you are looking for is in the "Base System" as configured for the server distribution.

The other server groups are what is used for the various types of servers, but all are layered packages with "Base System" as what they are layered on.

The difference between a "workstation" and a "server" starts with the base system list of packages. Even there, most of the packages will be the same.

The main difference is how the system gets ready for use. A server doesn't require a fancy video card, thus the startup used a much more basic start (hence the text mode display...).

You get to add whichever display manager you want.

Last edited by jpollard; 04-21-2016 at 09:45 AM.
 
Old 06-05-2016, 10:03 PM   #14
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So, basically, since I installed Linux as a workstation, there's no way to backtrack to the text mode plymouth display? Bummer.
 
Old 06-05-2016, 10:15 PM   #15
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Are you sure that 'charge' is the theme you think it is? A quick google search ("plymouth theme charge") suggests that it is the Fedora logo filling with white and then flashing to Fedora once complete.

Why not try a different theme, just to see if you are able to switch themes as expected, and then try to find the one you are looking for?

For the record, however, I think the one you are describing is actually the fallback that is used when modeset is not available, but maybe try "text".
 
  


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