Redhat 9

jon_k · 07-22-2003, 09:21 PM

Is Windows emulation completley impossible in Redhat 9.0?
From what's happened so far... certainly seems like it.

* All my Linux friends I know claim it is.
* All the GURU's I personally trust with root who have tried to install it have no luck.

I've tried the following emulators:[list=1][*]TRANSGAMING Wine-X (it's the only one I've found available for download free on google......)[*]Normal Wine (from winehq) does not seem to work. It gives me weird messages every time I install it.[*]VMWARE seemed like it'd work.... and it looks good until it gets to the point where I guess it'd start reading the cdrom but then all I get is an endless blinking underscore (_) on the top left.... it's a legal copy of the WIN2K (EVEN FOR GIGGLES TRIED MY REDHAT CD -- STILL BLINKING UNDERSCORE)[/list=1]

If I don't get help soon... I'm going to think it's impossible on REDHAT just like my friends... and I'm going to either switch distro ... heck.. I don't know...
ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRICIATED

DrOzz · 07-22-2003, 10:22 PM

first just to clear things up Wine Is Not an Emulator hence its name

anyways no its not impossible to run wine in redhat as i currently do, as do many many others...you could start by choosing a version of wine that you want to install, and post some errors you get and we'll try to clear them up

jon_k · 07-22-2003, 11:47 PM

I have both WINE and WINEX and VMWARE installed.... and the error as follows for each (except vmware which is described in my first post)
IN WINEX...

Code:

[jon@localhost jon]$ winex PalaceUserWin.exe
/usr/lib/transgaming/winex/bin/wine: relocation error: /usr/lib/transgaming/winex/lib/libwine.so: symbol h_errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[jon@localhost jon]$

I did the custom redhat install and installed _everything_ so -- WINEX must be messed or it must not come with RH9

IN WINE.....

Code:

[root@localhost jon]# wine PalaceUserWin.exe
wine: chdir to /tmp/.wine-root/server-302-223302 : No such file or directory
[root@localhost jon]#

jon_k · 07-22-2003, 11:47 PM

And please don't tell my my redhat install is f*'d and to fix reinstall or something... because I haven't dont jack crap to it for the entire system to be messed...

grifta · 07-23-2003, 12:09 AM

vmware workstation 4 works fine for me, I used win98se boot cd and that worked fine.

jon_k · 07-23-2003, 12:36 AM

VMWARE --
[Short story]
Once upon a time I installed mandrake (my first distro ever) and tried VMWARE ... i had accidently forgot I had the mandrake install cd in... and it booted up a graphical X install in vmware... -- so I took it out and put in W2K and rebooted the VM server and it just gave me that bs blinking _
[END STORY]

So I decided to switch to REDHAT (that was my sole purpose at the time for switching....) and redhat had the same problem, and I was greatly disgrunted

I didn't give up though, I tried WINE/WINEX but even those give me oddities (see posts above by me for info)..

it's frustrating, everything for everyone else seems to work out of the box, except for me. It's discouraging

(OH and to reply to Dr0z's post.... I believe it is an emulator... if i'm not mistaken WINE stands for [WIN]dows [E]mulator)

Kahless · 07-23-2003, 01:27 AM

WINE stands for "Wine is not an emulator"

proof

Proof :P read the first myth

This is on top of my to do list (im using redhat 9 too) but its proving to be annoying. When I figure it out ill be posting a nice tutorial, and hopefully it will be nicer to others than it was to me.

One thing that I have found (in print, in the redhat 9 bible) is that the RPM to install wine on rh8 WILL NOT work on 9. I have nfi why.... when i get it working ill point you to whatever rpm or souce I end up using.

Of course, id you beat me too it, post here with instructions

Im off work today, so there is a good chance when i wake up ill be messing with it for awhile, so wish me luck

jon_k · 07-23-2003, 02:27 AM

Done everything but taking the HDD apart, pouring dirt inside and closing it back up!!

Highly unlikley I'll figure it out before you, but if I do,, i will gladly share what I did... ! ;-)

Whats your AIM name kahless? Might be able to set ourselves up quicker in P2P (person 2 person)

rather than P2WS2P (Person 2 webserver 2 person)

Anyways i'm just now heading to bed (3:02 am central) so ... bleh... heheh... night (slowly drags self to bed and passes out)

spyderusa11 · 07-23-2003, 03:08 AM

WineX in RedHat needs p-threads enabled or something like that so it needs to be messed with a little to get it to work. Check out these scripts, especially the one that says for RedHat and Mandrake users: http://ting.homeunix.org/cvs_wine/GetWineX.html

For Wine, you have to use the RPM in RedHat 9, I think it has something to do with starting the wineserver at startup. Just make sure you get the one that says RH9 and not RH8 and that it matches your system type: http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...?group_id=6241

I don't know what's wrong with VMWare, but it works fine for me. Hopefully you can get the other two to work.

Mike

Mega Man X · 07-23-2003, 03:19 AM

Quote:

code:
[jon@localhost jon]$ winex PalaceUserWin.exe
/usr/lib/transgaming/winex/bin/wine: relocation error: /usr/lib/transgaming/winex/lib/libwine.so: symbol h_errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[jon@localhost jon]$

Well, I still could not install succesfully wine under Redhat 9.0, but I gave up... actually, I've no use at all for windows applications. Perhaps Kazaa would be nice, but anyway, edonkey/xmule are doing great and growing too so...
But winex I do, need it. If you have installed winex succesfully, then you need to read the docs. You're trying to type:

winex <file.exe>

that's wrong. You've to be careful with the syntaxes. The correct is:

winex <winex version number> <file.exe>

I've got Winex3, so for me to run a file, for example, called Setup.exe... the syntax is:

winex3 Setup.exe

Quote:

it's frustrating, everything for everyone else seems to work out of the box, except for me. It's discouraging

Don't be

Wine is the only problem so far with Redhat 9.0 (at least, the one I have, but once again, I've no use for any windows applications anymore), but there're some peoples who managed to fix it. But you definiltly need to read the docs and use the right syntaxes, then it will work right away, as apt-get or winex

...

Kahless · 07-23-2003, 03:26 AM

oh and i forgot to mention, it CAN be done.... keith (a friend of mine) had it working before a format, but the idot forgot to document wtf he did to get it working, and so far hasnt been able to get it back togeather :-/

anyway, aim: coondogon6

and ill keep trying.

browny_amiga · 07-23-2003, 05:12 AM

Wine is not an emulator, because it is a compatibility layer in Linux (gives the windows .exes the libs and all that windows stuff that thes need)

Emulation is: if you simulate the whole environment, like VM ware, where you can boot up, a box containing the other OS. Wine does not do that. (see www.winehq.org for more infos).

Usually, emulation is even stricter defined, meaning that if you want to run Apple Mac software on a Intel PC, the system needs to emulate (simulate) the whole CPU for the programm, otherwise it won't work.

Well, back to the subject:

Yes, it can be hard. I did not get my favorite Windows programms to run on wine since I upgraded to RH 9.

There is another possibility: Cross over office (www.codeweavers.com), costs 50bucks, but from my test, it is well worth it (that is if you want to get rid of windows so badly).
It runs MS office, Lotus Notes, Quicken, IE (YUCK), and some other stuff, that is not strictly supported. It is like the over-wine (super version of wine), that they perfected with the developement they put in. It is a commecial product and therefore has an automatic installer and everything.
I am not trying to promote anything here, neither I work for the company ;-). But I though I point it out, because it made me very happy to see it run so good.
Heck, I should put it in my signature, I mentioned this so many times.

I know that for many here, spending money on software is a big NoNo, so that might not work for neither.

But as I always say:
Either you got the money or you got the time.
Either you got the brains and figure it our yourself, or you gotta pay somebody else who uses his brains for you.

Well, in opensource it is a little different. Here you get great stuff for free, hail you great programmers out there programming such GREAT QUALITY SOFTWARE.
M$ is doing worse quality and they charge for it ;-) What a JOKE.

but.... wine is still highly experimental... as you probaby found out...

hawkph · 08-29-2003, 10:59 PM

I don't know if anyone is still following this particular thread, but, I have been in the same boat as everyone else here it seems. However, I had found a website that discussed and addressed a change in Redhat 9 from Readhat 8 as far as a threading proceedure (?) in the new version and fixed wine to compensate for it. I even had WinMX running fine with this version of wine. Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark the page to verify the download I have. (What a dumbass) But I do have the download amidst several wine-2003xxxx-rh8 RPMs. If anyone has found a better answer, I'd certainly like to hear about it. And if anyone asks, I think I can provide the correct patched wine version. I am on a quest to verify it !

hawkph · 08-29-2003, 11:23 PM

I just found this on another news server
Testing it tonight !

> > On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 01:40, Didier Casse wrote:
> > > I obtained a good wine rpm for redhat 9 at:
> > >
> > > http://newrpms.sunsite.dk/apt/redhat.../RPMS.newrpms/
> > >
> > > It's a newly built rpm package and it's working nicely. :-) It will save
> > > you the trouble of compiling. ;-)
> > >
> > > Didier
> > >
> > > ------
> > > PhD student
> > >
> > > Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
> > > 5 Research Link,
> > > Singapore 117603
> > >
> > > Email: slsbdfc@nus.edu.sg or didierbe@sps.nus.edu.sg
> > > Website: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg

LaZaRuS_357 · 11-18-2003, 04:16 AM

Oddest thing,

I've read through all of the posts, and decided to try and install wine.

I have 2 RH 9 boxes sitting here, one of which is approximately a month and a half old, the other is a fresh install I just completed 3 hours ago. I'm VNC'd into both from my laptop and everything is working great as usual. I decided to give Wine a try for a porject I'm working on and I installed it on my first box (the 3 month old one) via the RPM offered on sourceforge.net for the RH9 distro, all went well after I remembered to su as root. I decided to try it on the new box as this is the one for the project, having problems with it.

The only thing I can think of is that I must have downloaded a new library in the process of php and sql that I've been doing for the past month, guess I'll start there at least.

I've got to admit, I wasn't looking forward to dual booting my next machine, but with the possibilities of Wine, I just might not need to.