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Old 03-07-2008, 07:08 AM   #31
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I was wondering where you get a virtual machine with 4 cores, 4 gig ram and an emulated gtx 8800 from
 
Old 03-07-2008, 10:01 PM   #32
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I was wondering where you get a virtual machine with 4 cores, 4 gig ram and an emulated gtx 8800 from
You wouldn't emulate a gtx 8800.

You would give the virtual machine direct access to the video card
 
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You wouldn't emulate a gtx 8800.

You would give the virtual machine direct access to the video card
How do you do that with qemu?
 
Old 03-08-2008, 06:08 AM   #34
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How do you do that with qemu?
You don't.
(K)Qemu is the fastest (raw cpu) of them all but not for graphical stuff (It does have an OpenGL patch/option though). As far as I know, it doesn't
"emulate" high end cards...

Qemu (and kqemu/kvm) is not a good option if you're looking for graphical performance. (This could change though, KVM is getting better with every release).
 
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You don't.
(K)Qemu is the fastest (raw cpu) of them all but not for graphical stuff (It does have an OpenGL patch/option though). As far as I know, it doesn't
"emulate" high end cards...
Thats what I thought but I am always willing to learn something new.

About the speed thing:
Dunno - last time I tried kqemu it was kind of sluggish for compiling.
It's hard to say because reliable benchmarks of VM's are hard to find.I read that Vmware even expicitly prohibits publishing benchmarks in their license.
 
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How do you do that with qemu?
There is nothing stopping you from giving Qemu direct access to the video card. Except of course the coding.
 
Old 03-08-2008, 08:07 AM   #37
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There is nothing stopping you from giving Qemu direct access to the video card. Except of course the coding.
Could you please elaborate on that?

I can't find anything anywhere about doing this.
 
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About the speed thing:
Dunno - last time I tried kqemu it was kind of sluggish for compiling.
It's hard to say because reliable benchmarks of VM's are hard to find.I read that Vmware even expicitly prohibits publishing benchmarks in their license.
Did you try it with a headless VM ?
I use it like that with RDP to avoid the sluggish graphics emulation.

I find the speed difference very noticeable compared to VMWare.
Virtual Box isn't bad for this either (but more aimed for desktop systems).
 
Old 03-08-2008, 01:28 PM   #39
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Never used qemu headless - wouldn't make a difference either because I normally don't run a GUI in VM's.
Virtualbox (usuaslly run the headless either) was faster at the time which didn't make much sense since it shares a lot of code with qemu.
 
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Never used qemu headless - wouldn't make a difference either because I normally don't run a GUI in VM's.
Virtualbox (usuaslly run the headless either) was faster at the time which didn't make much sense since it shares a lot of code with qemu.
Well, I must admit that I don't know Virtualbox that good.
We mostly use Xen (RHEL, IBM), but that only makes sense for networking (xen beats everything here).
We do have a number of servers (mostly running drupal) using kvm and I'm really happy with those. Qemu's best thing is its raw cpu performance (IMHO, still the most important part).
 
Old 03-08-2008, 03:41 PM   #41
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If you do servers you might be interested in disk I/O which doesn't seem too great on any VM.
desides running any benchmark on VM's is funny business from my experience.

I am wondering where M$ is going with their next VM - either they go halfbaked as usual or if they really want to get all the way they'll have to include 3d for vista.
 
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Could you please elaborate on that?

I can't find anything anywhere about doing this.
You need only adjust the Qemu code to have direct access to the video card. Think of a system with two video cards. Assign one of them to Qemu.
 
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Well? Two video cards. What do you think?
 
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Never heard about anybody doing this - I know there is some prealpha software to get some 3d going but attaching a video card directly to the VM is news to me.
 
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Never heard about anybody doing this - I know there is some prealpha software to get some 3d going but attaching a video card directly to the VM is news to me.
It just seemed like something that was doable.
 
  


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