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Old 02-10-2016, 08:46 PM   #1
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Hi my name is Ryan im an new to Linux but i chose to switch to Linux Mint 17.3 after having too many problems with windows. i want to be able to game on my PC using steam. The problem i run into is trying to install net framework 4.0 which is a windows program used to run certain games. i have tried 3 ways to put it on and all failed. my question is is there a simple way to get it on my pc or would i be better off running either Zorin OS or Robolinux? please let me know what would be the best thing to do.
 
Old 02-10-2016, 09:13 PM   #2
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Why wine about it?

Why are you trying to run Windows games on Linux? Play some of the thousands of native Linux games instead.
 
Old 02-10-2016, 09:13 PM   #3
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Windows programs will not run on Linux, just as Linux programs will not run on Windows. Steam does offer games for Linux. This link may help: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...8495-OKZC-0159

You might also take a look at Desura.
 
Old 02-10-2016, 09:33 PM   #4
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ive seen people install the net framework 4.0 on their systems because i want to be able to run gta 5 and borderlands to play on steam with my friends and ive sen videos of people that have done it before and it worked fine for them. i was wondering if either of the programs i listed before will work better if anyone that has used them will know.
 
Old 02-11-2016, 05:44 AM   #5
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use the right tools

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ive seen people install the net framework 4.0 on their systems because i want to be able to run gta 5 and borderlands to play on steam with my friends and ive sen videos of people that have done it before and it worked fine for them. i was wondering if either of the programs i listed before will work better if anyone that has used them will know.
Sure, but that is a bit extreme. See this page for examples and
links https://gist.github.com/BeauBouchard...d231c3d06fced5

Steam and Steam-launcher are in the repos and run native linux, and you can run Steam games designed for Linux without wine. Wine is a wonderful effort that I applaud and have used on occasion, but running non-native applications should always be the LAST choice!

Borderlands 2 is available on both platforms, and rocks.
(see comparison here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ix_TLCEcm0 )

If you MUST run using Windows components under Linux, google for some how-to pages to get the right tools to make it easier.
 
Old 02-11-2016, 06:25 AM   #6
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i want to be able to run gta 5
GTA 5 will not run with Wine, since GTA 5 needs DirectX 10, which currently not fully implemented in Wine. So, for now if you want to play GTA 5 you will have to do that on Windows. For Borderlands, as wpeckham already pointed out, exist native Linux versions, so no need for .Net 4.0.
 
Old 02-12-2016, 05:23 AM   #7
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google for it?

Question: have you explored playdeb.net yet? Perhaps you should! There are TONS of native Linux games around, and nearly all packaged for Debian will run fine on Mint. Have a little look and see if you like what you find.
 
Old 02-12-2016, 08:32 AM   #8
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ive seen people install the net framework 4.0 on their systems because i want to be able to run gta 5 and borderlands to play on steam with my friends and ive sen videos of people that have done it before and it worked fine for them. i was wondering if either of the programs i listed before will work better if anyone that has used them will know.
then I'd highly suggest YouTube search how to's -- you may find your solution there.

ever see a dog chase his tail??? :

Install VBox then install Windows on that then setting up your VBox windows to run your Windows games...

D

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Old 02-15-2016, 05:04 PM   #9
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Install VBox then install Windows on that then setting up your VBox windows to run your Windows games...

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Will he get a reasonable framerate in VBox these days, or are you suggesting something that is going to choke on graphic performance like it traditionally has?
 
Old 02-15-2016, 07:22 PM   #10
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Will he get a reasonable framerate in VBox these days, or are you suggesting something that is going to choke on graphic performance like it traditionally has?
redundant statment it was

unfortunately Linux do not have people that program games as techy as windows are.

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Old 02-15-2016, 07:49 PM   #11
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Say what?

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redundant statment it was

unfortunately Linux do not have people that program games as techy as windows are.
With all due respect, I disagree. Seek out the good Linux games and you will see.
 
Old 02-15-2016, 07:58 PM   #12
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With all due respect, I disagree. Seek out the good Linux games and you will see.
should I quote you on that in google

good linux games?

name some really cool first shooter games for linux.

I'm not up on all of what is out there, but what I have looked up and seen are just basic 2d old graphics doom (prboom) is the only one I found to like... so far.. suggestions?

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I quoted you

good linux games

OK I see a few lol hehe

thanks!

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Old 02-16-2016, 04:23 AM   #13
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name some really cool first shooter games for linux.
Only some of the games I own on Steam that should be "techy" enough: Bioshock Infinite, Borderlands 2, the Metro series, Saints Row IV, Spec Ops: The Line, Serious Sam 3, ... .
Your statement might have been true 5 years ago, but nowadays it isn't anymore.

Anyways, regarding gaming in a VM: Unless you have a second videocard that you can pass through to the VM (and hardware that supports this) you won't have much fun with that with newer games.
 
Old 02-16-2016, 05:49 AM   #14
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Only some of the games I own on Steam that should be "techy" enough: Bioshock Infinite, Borderlands 2, the Metro series, Saints Row IV, Spec Ops: The Line, Serious Sam 3, ... .
Your statement might have been true 5 years ago, but nowadays it isn't anymore.
Yep I'd say I've been out of looking around for shooter games on linux, or maybe just didn't look hard enough.


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Anyways, regarding gaming in a VM: Unless you have a second videocard that you can pass through to the VM (and hardware that supports this) you won't have much fun with that with newer games.
Vbox does have a setting for 2D and 3D rendering support. maybe, if you have a beefed up enough hardware you could get by going through VBox. a quad core ~ butt load of RAM.

Dedicating 2 cores to the Vbox Windows session and a good chunk of your RAM. With everything turned on for that install of VBox Windows. you might get away with it.

Even with a dual core you can still tell that session to use two cores. 3D support if your Vid Card supports it.

As long as that is the only thing running that would be pullng the majority of your resources you might get away with it.

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Yep I'd say I've been out of looking around for shooter games on linux, or maybe just didn't look hard enough.



Vbox does have a setting for 2D and 3D rendering support. maybe, if you have a beefed up enough hardware you could get by going through VBox. a quad core ~ butt load of RAM.

Dedicating 2 cores to the Vbox Windows session and a good chunk of your RAM. With everything turned on for that install of VBox Windows. you might get away with it.

Even with a dual core you can still tell that session to use two cores. 3D support if your Vid Card supports it.

As long as that is the only thing running that would be pullng the majority of your resources you might get away with it.
Beefing up the host hardware won't help. The OS in the VM will still only get a virtual video device with performance and features not suitable for modern games (again, unless you are able to pass through a dedicated videocard to the VM). It will work for older games, but don't expect anything somewhat demanding to run in Virtualbox without dedicated hardware.
 
  


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