Talking about non-sense, your are comparing the application name with the time to crop an image!

Kolourpaint:
Ctrl+E
type the new width
enter
--over--

or

Ctrl+e
TAB
enter a percentage
enter
--over--

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So what are they going to replace it with?? GNU Paint? That would really suck as AFAIK it doesn't even have an undo function! And it's way too simplistic in other ways, too.

You won't be seeing me upgrade anytime soon...

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You can still install it from Ubuntu software center, and they will replace it by nothing, as KolourPaint require KDE, mtPaint look strange and Paint.Net have ".NET" in its name.

Whenever I tried Ubuntu it seemed so dumbed down... I don't understand why it's so popular.

And it seems to me that an image editor that does not have an alpha channel (transparency) is a waste of hard drive space rather than a useful tool.

Cropping in GIMP is very easy, just click the knife icon in the tool window, drag the rectangle around in the image, and click in it.

Kolourpaint can't even do full on/off transparency, as far as I know, let alone 255 levels of opacity like GIMP.

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They are dropping GIMP in the default ubuntu install since Gnome comes with F-spot. How about dropping Mono instead of GIMP?

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Gimp:

Ctrl-C
Select the area
Enter

If you mean Image - Canvas Size, what is so complex about that?

GIMP is hard for beginners and lack of painting tools, because it is an image manipulation program and not a painting program. But it would be nice if some painting features are included to let people easily draw circles and lines, etc.

Semantics---I think you mean **drawing program**. GIMP has all manner of painting tools---and some drawing tools, also. But--drawing shapes is really the province of vector=based programs.

GIMP WILL do simple shapes---rectangles, circles, straight lines.......

Before I had GIMP I was not able to make nice graphics (like icons, etc) because I couldn't believe how you can draw it pixel-by-pixel by hand with painting tools.

When I learned GIMP, I figured out that it is done by drawing simple shapes and applying mathematical algorithms to them. I figured out that creating good-looking graphics was actually easy!

So I think that GIMP not being a "painting" tool is actually a great advantage.

And I agree with pixellany that if you want to draw something based on geometrical shapes you should get a vector-based image editor such as Inkscape instead.

Seriously? Remove GIMP? It's a wonderful tool! I went straight from MS Paint to GIMP. I liked GIMP better. Everything does what it says it does! There's no confusion! It's well documented! It supports every image format imaginable! And remove it? It's not only an extremely powerful tool, it's an icon of OSS at it's best!

Ugh - Ubuntu. I just nuked my installation, and man, was that the best decision of my life. Ubuntu is going in the same, wrong direction as Windows and Mac did - oversimplify things, making them inherently harder, less reliable, and use more system resources.

GIMP is NOT hard to use! The paintbrush tool paints, the eraser erases. You can use control and shift to make angles and straight lines. Wow. Not a drawing program? And I suppose then, that Firefox is not in fact a web browser, but an html previewer? Let's just remove it too, then.

I'm sorry if I'm being harsh, but I don't know where one can get off removing GIMP.

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GIMP is my main image editor and it makes me mad that they remove it. Newer isnt always better LOL.

If it's not installed by default..........then install it yourself.
Get over it.

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Here's the thing, the package has not been removed from the distro. Anyone who has enough clues to even be able to discus this topic will have enough clues to install packages that they want or need. Additionally, that distro has a package managment gui layout like some stupid online shop: if noobs can't navigate that to find a package what hope to they have in general?

I mean really who gives a rats if some particular package it installed by default? Seriously?

Mods: would it be better to move this thread to the Ubuntu or Newbies forums?

Evo2.

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According to this article Gimp will be removed from Ubuntu in favor of PiTiVi. In case you didn't know, PiTiVi is a video stream editor, not a bitmap editor.

This is not Ubuntu to blame, it is exactly what users want nowadays. Instead of making and showing a couple of well-composed and well-rendered razor sharp pictures, the majority of people prefer a badly-edited shaky, fuzzy, amateurish 3-minute youtube video. As such, I have to credit Ubuntu for making this step as they seem to be able to estimate very well what the average user wants and needs.

From the statement above you might understand that I prefer myself good pictures over low-quality videos, but as it seems other people quickly degenerate to youtube/MSN/twitter/facebook superfluous creatures.

Ubuntu only translates this in a changed standard installation. Ubuntu simply is good (or at least better than others) in adjusting their installation to user's needs, like passwordless sudo and (yes!) a button to run windows with root UID (as they are used to in Windows). Don't blame Ubuntu for that, blame the user. And choose a different distro if you want to be treated as an intelligent human being.

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