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Old 01-09-2018, 01:34 PM   #46
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Hi thanks for the info on fedora and drivers! In Qubes I got this message: faild to load "Kernel modules" is that driver? That would be a software problem I guess.

you asked if I see a network in the network manager Im not sure there is one youre so posed to manage the network in the net-VM I think.

I just made some findings however that perhaps indicate that its not a software problem:

I tried to install Debian on the same hard-drive from a usb drive yesterday and that iso file requiters internet connection during the installation process. I did find my wireless network entered the password and got this error message: "Network configuration faild" "not using DHCD protocol". that is in Debian during the installation process but perhaps its the same underlying problem that I encounter while running Qubes?

I tried to install twice and at some point during the installation proces got this message: "Multipelnework interfaces"

I guse this are the two interfaces:

1. en2sofo:Brodcom Limeted Net Link BCM577__ Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
2. wlp3so:Qualcomm Athersos Ar92287 Wireless network Adapter (PCI-Express) (Wireless)

I just figured I ask if you ore any one ells knows what to make of this before reinstalling Qubes and going trough the drivers as you suggested.

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Old 01-09-2018, 08:46 PM   #47
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I got this message: faild to load "Kernel modules" is that driver?
Yes:-

Looking at these:
Code:
1. en2sofo:Brodcom Limeted Net Link BCM577__ Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
2. wlp3so:Qualcomm Athersos Ar92287 Wireless network Adapter (PCI-Express) (Wireless)
Broadcom is a card that requires a driver to work for the enternet. Can't tell if that your on board card or not.
But the Qualcomm Athersos Wireless network adapter.....thats you wireless network card that you would look for a driver for it.

The non-free firmware that you would need to install for your Qualcomm Atheros nic for Debian is here:

https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware

Install the firmware and than reboot. You should have a working internet connection after installing the firmware.
 
Old 01-12-2018, 05:44 AM   #48
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Yes:-

Looking at these:
Code:
1. en2sofo:Brodcom Limeted Net Link BCM577__ Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
2. wlp3so:Qualcomm Athersos Ar92287 Wireless network Adapter (PCI-Express) (Wireless)
Broadcom is a card that requires a driver to work for the enternet. Can't tell if that your on board card or not.
But the Qualcomm Athersos Wireless network adapter.....thats you wireless network card that you would look for a driver for it.

The non-free firmware that you would need to install for your Qualcomm Atheros nic for Debian is here:

https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware

Install the firmware and than reboot. You should have a working internet connection after installing the firmware.
Ok, that makes it clearer. Its seams kind of strange tough that Debbian require specific drivers during installation. My regular internet connection works fine in windows.


Any way I relay want Qubes to work as well sould I reinstall and look for that specific driver related to the error message in Qubes (that is:"Kernel modules")?

Or sould I install the driver for Qualcomm Athersos Wireless network adapter in windows first? How come my regular internet connection in Windows works fine if a driver i missing? And why wont Qubes install all drivers necessary to run it during the installation (this installation dont require internet connection while installing)? It cant be standard procedure to have to install drivers after the operating system has bin install? Perhaps fixing the driver for the Qualcomm Athersos Wireless network adapter will solve the problem i Qubes with no need for downloads ones its installed?

Thanks for youre relply! Its seams soluble at this point!
 
Old 01-12-2018, 04:05 PM   #49
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Ok, that makes it clearer. Its seams kind of strange tough that Debbian require specific drivers during installation. My regular internet connection works fine in windows.


Any way I relay want Qubes to work as well sould I reinstall and look for that specific driver related to the error message in Qubes (that is:"Kernel modules")?

Or sould I install the driver for Qualcomm Athersos Wireless network adapter in windows first? How come my regular internet connection in Windows works fine if a driver i missing? And why wont Qubes install all drivers necessary to run it during the installation (this installation dont require internet connection while installing)? It cant be standard procedure to have to install drivers after the operating system has bin install? Perhaps fixing the driver for the Qualcomm Athersos Wireless network adapter will solve the problem i Qubes with no need for downloads ones its installed?

Thanks for youre relply! Its seams soluble at this point!
With Qubes I have no idea what kernel module is missing. The kernel has a lot of different modules. IF I'm not mistaken the ath10k driver/module is included in the kernel. The ath10k is included starting with kernel 3.11.

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/...drivers/ath10k

IF your not able to connect your Windows os to the internet than yes, you would need to install the windows driver for your Qualcomm Athersos nic.

You might want to read the Qubes documentation to see how to install a driver if your internet connection isn't working with a fresh install of Qubes. Go to the bottom of the page under "Docs".

IF you get no where with that read the Fedora documentation.

If you still have trouble with Qubes than I suggest you install Fedora Workstation. It should see your nic no problem and work right out of the box.
https://getfedora.org/

-:::-Sometimes drivers are not included like for example with Debian. You have to download and install the firmware in order for an internet connection to work.-:::-

I looked for about an hour for the exact number of your nic AR92287 and all I could find was drivers for the QC series.
The ath5k driver and the ath10k driver for your Qualcomm Athersos card should be included in the kernel.

What kernel is Qubus using? Run uname -r in the terminal to find out.
 
Old 01-12-2018, 05:49 PM   #50
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I will as son as I reinstall and got my Chromebook! You mean the DOM-teminal? theirs a terminal for the "Net-Qube" as well but I haven bin able to open it.
 
Old 01-12-2018, 06:11 PM   #51
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I will as son as I reinstall and got my Chromebook! You mean the DOM-teminal? theirs a terminal for the "Net-Qube" as well but I haven bin able to open it.
I mean this terminal:

https://www.google.com/search?q=pict...u4cqp43StZzpM:
 
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:07 PM   #52
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I got this message running the command (uname -r): 4.4.14-11. pvops.qubes. x86_64

I hope that gave you some clues

I guess the solution is to find out what driver is required when running Qubes with my network adapter: and getting it in cubes with a usb. How is an other matter. But a lot people seems to have done this to solve various network problems.
On Qubes.com there is a lot of stuff on fixing and updating a functioning network but not on this.

I also got this as a suggestion during installation:

See systemct1status system modules-load.service
See systemct1 status Qubes-net vm servic
 
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:34 PM   #53
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I got this message running the command (uname -r): 4.4.14-11. pvops.qubes. x86_64

I hope that gave you some clues

I guess the solution is to find out what driver is required when running Qubes with my network adapter: and getting it in cubes with a usb. How is an other matter. But a lot people seems to have done this to solve various network problems.
On Qubes.com there is a lot of stuff on fixing and updating a functioning network but not on this.

I also got this as a suggestion during installation:

See systemct1status system modules-load.service
See systemct1 status Qubes-net vm servic
That means Qubes is using kernel 4.4.14 which means it should automatically have the driver/module for your Atherosos card.

If you still don't have an internet connection in Qubes you will have to manually install the ath10k driver.

Use your terminal and type systemct1status system modules-load.service and see if it brings up help.
https://superuser.com/questions/9979...les-load-fails

Also try typing lsmod in the terminal to see what modules are already installed:-

IS Qubes failing to boot?
 
Old 01-16-2018, 12:20 PM   #54
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Old 01-16-2018, 12:24 PM   #55
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Thanks for your replies. the first command if it was one didn't do anything. I'm reading the text tough.

lsmod did however! the list I gett don't show any error as far as I can tell. But under module i say ath9K not 10. Are you sure I sould have modul 10 to my network adapter?


There are two columns the first saying modul the other saying “used by”

Moduls:
ath9K
ath9k_comon
ath9k_hw


Used by:
0
1 ath9k
2 ath9k_common,ath9k


Thats the colums pleas picture them side by side.
 
Old 01-16-2018, 01:54 PM   #56
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@IsaacKuo -- I admirer your patience!
(BTW, that's my newest return-to distro -- siduction "Patience!")
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Good job!
 
Old 01-16-2018, 04:13 PM   #57
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@IsaacKuo -- I admirer your patience!
(BTW, that's my newest return-to distro -- siduction "Patience!")
LOL
Good job!
Sorry but subtleties just dont work on me my Enlish is to poor. Its a new subject this time by the way initial problem was solved.

Besides it's not that easy to solve a problem like this. Coming to the conclusion that is a driver and figuring out with one is just to far fetched give my basic understanding. For me it's just a series of dead ends and lots of disinformation ever where. Luckily for me there are people that have interest in stuff like this and actually help out


And I learn along the way to.

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Old 01-16-2018, 09:47 PM   #58
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Thanks for your replies. the first command if it was one didn't do anything. I'm reading the text tough.

lsmod did however! the list I gett don't show any error as far as I can tell. But under module i say ath9K not 10. Are you sure I sould have modul 10 to my network adapter?


There are two columns the first saying modul the other saying “used by”

Moduls:
ath9K
ath9k_comon
ath9k_hw


Used by:
0
1 ath9k
2 ath9k_common,ath9k


Thats the colums pleas picture them side by side.
I knew it was either ath9k or ath10k. You should have module ath9k-
That's good that ath9k is in the output of lsmod.

With module ath9k already installed you should be able to connect to your network through the Network Manager.

What desktop env. are you using? Gnome? KDE? XFCE?
 
Old 01-17-2018, 07:44 AM   #59
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I'm not sure about desktop environment right now. I know there's supposed på be an Ikon for network in the bar but it isn't also i have bin in the syn-net VM can't find anything useful there eather.

but still im getting: failed to load kernel before start but if have the right drives so I guess to do something. but what?
got this message in the desktop environment right after start "Attached new device to dom" /dev/rs0

I typed this command in dom as well as de command line for syn-net VM.

in dom get: there is no such device

when I do the say think in command line for syn-net:

Fist it say “starting syn net VM” (that is in the desktop environment)
and in syn-net VM command line (or rather in a window) I get: internal error Unable to reset PCI device 0000:02:00.0 internal error: active 0000:02:00b device on bus with 0000:02:00.0, not doing bus reset.

What is this?

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