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Old 02-12-2004, 09:09 PM   #1
Travis86
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Does anyone hate the new "features" in Firefox?


This isn't really a question, so it might not go here, but it's not off-topic and it's not an answer, so I guess the best place for it is here.

I upgraded to Firefox 0.8 today, and I think I might just go back to Firebird 0.7. Let me enumerate all of the things that I don't like:

The new name is lousy - to much alliteration.
The old icon was 10 times better than the new one
The arrow on the search icon doesn't look right - put it on the side or something.
None of the noticeable bugs have been fixed (that I can see so far).
I'm not much for the new download manager - give me the old download boxes.
None of the old skins work.
None of the good extensions work.

Ok, I might get used to the download manager, but why'd they have to change everything else? What do you think?
 
Old 02-12-2004, 09:30 PM   #2
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My opinion is quite on the contrary from yours.

I like the download manager, I like the new icon, I like the catchy new name (yet another change! Let's see how long this one lasts! ), I don't use the skins and the TabBrowser extension works well.

I have been using nightlies for a long time now so I was a bit confused with the release of 0.8 as they have swapped the positions on the Resume and Remove buttons in the download manager. I did a couple of whoops things before I realized that. I have no idea what you're talking about concerning the search icon, and I would very much like to know about the noticeable bugs you're talking about.

Why they changed several things? Well, probably because the developers felt that's the way to go. It's still a browser under development and end user software *should* change under its life cycle to keep up with expectations and demands.

Btw, regarding the skins...you are using the XFT/GTK2 build, right?

Håkan
 
Old 02-12-2004, 09:34 PM   #3
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I still use 0.6. Nothing better then it.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 09:43 PM   #4
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I don't see much better or worse...just a bit different here and there.

hw-tph: the search icon would be the Google search icon....there's a little arrow there. personally i don't see the point in adding "find on this page" to it when it takes a fraction of the time to hit Ctrl+F and there's already a clicky option under 'Edit', and add engines is more appropriate in Preferences. Just kinda pointless additions to the Search IMO
 
Old 02-12-2004, 09:58 PM   #5
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Why don't you guys simply get the source code, change everything as you please and make a custom version of the browser?
 
Old 02-12-2004, 10:11 PM   #6
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Been using it since the beginning and this seems to have fixed my one gripe. 0.8 loads quicker.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 10:29 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by Megaman X
Why don't you guys simply get the source code, change everything as you please and make a custom version of the browser?
Because then we couldn't complain if we don't like it I still think plain old mozilla is the best
 
Old 02-13-2004, 12:26 AM   #8
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Well, so far, no one has flamed me. Thanks, everyone.

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Btw, regarding the skins...you are using the XFT/GTK2 build, right?
Heheheh.... Actually I'm using the Windows build. The best Linux computer I have right now is my Playstation 2. I do have Firebird 0.7 on it, but it's kind of slow surfing the web on a computer with 32 Mb of ram. I use TWM as my window manager, and it's tollerable. I might try upgrading to to Firefox 0.8 and seeing how it is over there.

The main bug I notice is a cookie error with my webmail. Something about the wrong cookie or something. When I hit refresh it fixes it.
Also, when I open a page with one of those annoying status-bar scrollers, the scroller stays there for every other tab until I close the tab the created it.

And, as I say, I guess I'll get used to the download manager soon, too.

Quote:
Originally posted by Baldorg
I still use 0.6. Nothing better then it.
Why? Maybe I should use that instead.

Quote:
Originally posted by Megaman X
Why don't you guys simply get the source code, change everything as you please and make a custom version of the browser?
I will after I learn C++. That item is steadily rising on my to-do list.

Last edited by Travis86; 02-13-2004 at 11:34 AM.
 
Old 02-13-2004, 01:29 AM   #9
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I've already dumped it and gone to the 0.7 firebird. I too hate this new name and really think this is a bad release .
 
Old 02-13-2004, 10:25 AM   #10
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My main gripe about the "new" release is that it seems almost totally indistinguishable from the last one. Especially the butt ugly html forms! Man, those radio buttons make Windows 95 look "slick". If they could make those form elements look a bit less clunky, it would go a long long way to making the browser more beautiful overall. <-- my 2 cents.
 
Old 02-13-2004, 11:46 AM   #11
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I think the new logo is better than the last. The name is kind of silly, I admit that, but I don't give a damn about a name of software. It's the performance that counts most in my book.
 
Old 02-13-2004, 11:48 AM   #12
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The only thing I have found so far that I don't like is that the Search can't be put in the sidebar any more that I can see. I prefer to have it there like in Mozilla, because it puts the top search hits in the sidebar and they are available while I am looking at each hit. I don't have to hit back several times to go to the next hit.) As for the name - maybe they got a complaint from the car company that makes the Firebird car?
 
Old 02-13-2004, 12:23 PM   #13
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Despite the name of this release sounding good or not, I think it's always a bad idea to change names of applications already set and known. Now that many peoples, including windows users, started to switch to Firebird, they change the name. The impact it does with search engines and/or peoples talking good about Firebird is hard to measure. Just think that last week I've recommended Firebird to a friend of mine, this week it has a new name and the info I gave him is messy and dated now.
My entire basic education was made in the very same school. Today this school has another name. From time to time I have problems with my resumes just because that school changed it's name, thus difficult to find info about it.
Changing version numbers and nicknames (eg. potato, woody, ) == good, switching names == dumb.
Firebird did a big mistake switching names, and they should already know it. Looks even more stupid that this version starts with number 0.8, right after where Firebird stopped. It should start from 0.1 again if it's to make something somewhat organized. My two cents...
 
Old 02-13-2004, 01:53 PM   #14
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Personally i like firefox.

About the "name changes" you people do releize something form the version number (.8) thats "point eight" not even an official release. Phoenix and firebird were only code names for the firefox browser. Firefox is now the official name. They got rid of firebird do to conflicts with the firebird database. Firefox is here to stay, love it or leave it.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fire...-name-faq.html
http://www.bengoodger.com/weblog/
 
Old 02-15-2004, 02:08 PM   #15
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It's great

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