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Old 05-29-2011, 09:16 AM   #16
Refael Alats
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The suggestion is rather reference to the fact that many Christians are not very savvy with "Ordinateur" Science, & perhaps are offended that the name "Daemon" would be used au lieu a different name. And the goal is to implement into Angelico Linux a specifically Christian Focused & specific file & operations system for the Open Source Community.
Am personally done disputing about what everybody thinks about altering the name and am rather more interested to learn where the processes begin & what language the processes are written in.

Muchos Gracias, though further complaints & superfluous disputes & questions about intent are annul and am rather interested to learn.

Muchos Gracias.
 
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:35 AM   #17
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I think you have not understood yet. There are no processes named daemon. Daemon is a word like car. It will be a car, even if you change the name of a specific car from may be Ford to Buick. There also is, as stated before, not one language those programs are written with, there are several, the developers of those programs have decided which language to use for their program. There is no consensus between developers which language to use for programs that may be started as daemon.

No offense meant, but from what you have written til now I would conclude that you don't have enough knowledge of the Linux system to be able to develop a new distro. May be you should start with something like Linux From Scratch to get more knowledge about the inner workings of this great OS.
 
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Old 05-29-2011, 05:53 PM   #18
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Like TobiSGD said, 'daemon' is a term used to describe processes that work on a task.

There is something you really need to know about the term.

The origins can be traced back to Lord Kelvin, and the thought experiment James Clark Maxwell -- the father of classical electromagnetic theory, as in Maxwell's Laws -- first described in a letter in 1867.

Maxwell himself was quite religious. He was brought up episcopalian, but later converted to evangelical Presbyterian, eventually becoming an Elder of the Church of Scotland.

The thought experiment involves an agent Maxwell termed a "finite being", and Lord Kelvin dubbed a 'daemon'. In Nature in 1874, Lord Kelvin implied he intended the mediating connotation of the word (from ancient Greek daio, to divide, to allot), nothing to do with malevolence.

The processes we now call 'daemons' are mediators. The 'e' in the term is included to emphasize the difference between the term and 'demon'.I understand you as well as other Christians may be offended by the term 'daemon', but that is strictly your own problem: the term, and the use of the term, has nothing to do with malevolence, or religion. You are not offended by our use of the term, but by your own context for the term, and your own interpretation of the term. Essentially, you are deliberately misunderstanding a large number of programmers, and I take exception to that.

You are of course free to create a new Linux distribution without any references to the term, as long as you work within copyright laws, and respect the licenses. Since 'daemon' is commonly used in configuration files and command line switches, you will have to modify a large number of software packages. You will also have to edit their documentation. Your distribution will be incompatible with all other Linux distributions, because you will have to modify the application programming interfaces (APIs) at the base level -- for example, get rid or rename the GNU C library function daemon(). You will have to modify even the Linux Kernel itself, since a number of kernel tasks have been delegated as separate daemons.

Because of your deliberate misunderstanding, I don't think many programmers will help you. Good luck.
 
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:53 PM   #19
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daemon stands for "Disk And Execution MONitor", it is a term predating Linux and has nothing to do with demons except for a similar spelling and pronunciation.

But hey, why take the risk of offending peoples religious beliefs: we should rewrite all dictionaries of all languages removing the words that could potentially cause offence.

Evo2.
 
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Old 05-30-2011, 12:14 AM   #20
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You can grep for the word daemon and use a hex editor to replace it with another word; sed might also do the trick
or
You can get all the source codes and documentation, do the same grep and use an editor to change the word; next recompile the source code and recreate the documentation.

Both are long processes and will always have the risk of missing one. And any update anywhere (program, kernel, ...) will require you to go through the same process again.

Source code should be available for each and every piece of the software; check the distro that you're using as the base to get it. If you're starting from scratch, check www.kernel.org for the kernel's source code; bash's source code can be found here. And for the rest, you have to search for the software that you're going to include in the distribution.

There is an Ubuntu Christian edition, but I doubt they took it as far as you want.
 
  


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