I have been having trouble with the GIMP photo scaling process I have been using for years with no problem. I decided to start over. I installed new Fire Fox version 78.0.2-1.fc32. Then downloaded Linux 32. I uninstalled GIMP. Now unable to install new GIMP. I get tne following message:
"org.fedora project.platform connection terminated unexpectedly"
OOPS! Have I done something horribly stubid? I am 77 yrs old but not yet senile. help please.
Jared Simmons - cougarklauz@maui.net

Perhaps try installing it from source? https://www.gimp.org/downloads/

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I am not a fedora user but that error would appear to be a network error having nothing to do with gimp. It appears you lost contact with the site. It doesn't tell you why. First, I would try pinging it. Either you will get a response which means the site itself is up and your computer's connection is ok, or you will get no response which means either the site does not respond to pings or it is down, or you will get a message saying the network is unavailable meaning there is something wrong with your computer's connection or somewhere between there and the network itself. It is also possible that the site or some site between just became overwhelmed with traffic and was unable to service your link in an approved amount of time. If you are not getting any contact with it but have no problems with other sites then just wait and try later - a few minutes or an hour or so. Losing a connection like that is not unusual.

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Thanks so much for your quick replys. I went the source page you advised but still had the same problem and same message. I guess I will try again each day for a while, I am bit nervous / intimidated by the command line route. I don't trust myself that much. Thanks again.

Jared

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you do not need to use command line, just try to download it again. Probably it will work.
You can also try another site[s] to check if your network is ok.
Additionally would be nice to tell us exactly what did you try and how (and what was the result).

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It works it works. I looked at several websites where I could download the GIMP. All sites took me to the same source. One site however, provided a one line command which I typed in at the terminal command line screen. This is the one line command.......

flatpak install https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/o...IMP.flatpakref

I had to answer a few questions about some small pre-installation programs that were required before installation of the main body of
the GIMP application. All were simple y or n answers and I always chose yes. The entire process took less than 15 minutes and all went
well.
Thank you all for taking the time to help me on my way. I have two sons, 11 and 13 yrs and setting us all up for the coming year of
home based school definitely reminds me of the value of time, mine and everyone else's. Stay well and keep safe,

Jared

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...with all that said, congratulations etc., but I'm sure GIMP is in fedora's repositories, and there was never a need to download a flatpak version.
A command like "yum install gimp" would probably have been enough.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_management

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@ jaredR:-

Have you ever heard of things called AppImages? No, it's not a trick question.

These things are designed to run on any system. It's a 'portable'/sandboxed application, contains everything required to run, and just needs to be made executable, by running

....on the file in a terminal. Then you simply click on it to run.

They typically unpack themselves into /tmp, from where they run for the duration. It'll create its config files in your /home directory, so things will be as you left them when you next use it.

A guy name of aferrero runs a continuous-build page over at GitHub, and assiduously updates his GIMP AppImages very regularly:-

https://github.com/aferrero2707/gimp-appimage/releases

Look through the 'Assets' at the bottom. There's a lot of entries here, because there's tons of older builds still available.....and aferrero only lists them by build-date, so it can take a wee while to find the one you want. However, the newest current version, released only yesterday (with all plugins) appears to be this one:-

https://github.com/aferrero2707/gimp...86_64.AppImage

That's a direct link to the download.

AppImages can be a bit hit-and-miss; not all of them run on every distro (not without tweaking, anyway), but I've always found aferrero's builds to be as good as gold, and never fail to fire up and run. It's worth bookmarking the page if you want to keep up with the newest version.

Hope that's perhaps of some use.


Mike.

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Essentially, flatpaks are the same thing.
But I reiterate - i do not think that there's any reason for going to all that trouble, because GIMP should be in Fedors'a repos. And a fairly recent version at that, if I understand fedora's policies correctly.

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COMMENT: I am NON-Technical, however a regular user... terminal commands rarely change.


When I made the change to linux found many things difficult to remember.

When soon after I started using Terminal Commands soon able to find, update, install, uninstall and doing many other things so much easier :-)




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Oh, don't get me wrong. I happen to agree with you; FlatPaks, Snaps, AppImages.....they're all variations on the same thing; that of a completely self-contained, sand-boxed application.

I only mentioned AppImages this time around because I use the GIMP a lot myself. I came across aferrero's builds around a year ago; he/she assiduously updates/compiles/whatever to the very latest version the instant it's released, AND these things always just 'work' straightaway, OOTB, with no issues at all.

Yes, I know many on here won't agree with me; the duplication of dependencies sticks in many people's craw as being unnecessary, but.....well, frankly, with so many of us running way more capable rigs than we used to, with powerful multi-core CPUs, vast quantities of RAM, SSDs/NVME.M2s, etc, is a bit of extra space usage really such an issue any more?

I'll be interested to read your response. I know you like to have the "last word" wherever possible....


Mike.

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You must be a graphic designer that depends specifically on GIMP's latest and greatest features.
Or maybe you just suffer from shiny new stuff syndrome.
Be that as it may, I specifically mentioned that fedora stays extremely close to upstream in its software updates - so there shouldn't be a need for any of that.

It quickly becomes an issue when people have no clue about it, no idea how much more resources all this actually consumes, often don't even realise what the difference is at all.
There's a few topics here on LQ that bear testimony to that.
Esp. when many run Linux on constrained/old machines. You as a Puppy user should understand that. My system definitely suffers from anything but occasional containerisation.

No, in reality containerised software formats just "make the transition easier" for people who come from a $proprietary_OS mindset - at last, clickable installers instead of confusing package management! One more hurdle out of the way to make all operating systems alike! /s
When in reality package management is so much saner and wholesome, one of the strengths of GNU/Linux really.

Is that supposed to be passive-agressive? Pal?
In any case, it isn't even true.

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Saved in favorites in case I need it in the future, thanks.

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@ ondoho:-

A word of explanation is perhaps in order here.

Ignore the last couple of sentences of the previous post. Ever since my "cardiac episode", 3½ years ago, I get days when I really shouldn't post. AT ALL..! ( I find myself getting all 'bloody-minded' for no reason whatsoever, and am liable to post stuff I feel guilty about the next day... )

As for being a Puppy user, umm....it kinda depends which end of the scale I'm working at on any given day. If I'm using the almost 18 yr-old Dell lappie - P4 and a gig of DDR1 - I wouldn't even contemplate using containerised applications. If, however, I'm at the other end of the scale, ah.....I can (and DO) use 'em with impunity, and don't even think twice about it.

My 15 yr-old Compaq tower died just after Xmas, and I finally dragged myself into the modern world with a vengeance. An almost new HP Pavilion tower; quad-core Coffee-Lake Pentium Gold running at almost 4 GHz, 16 GB DDR4, storage (HDDs and SSDs) coming out the wazoo, there's so much of it.....etc. etc. Yet I still run Pup; using so little space, albeit amazingly capable for what she is, virtually all of that RAM/storage is free for MY use.....not by the OS.

It's such an improvement, I get somewhat carried away sometimes.....and it's refreshing, too, not only using Pup the way she was always intended (on prehistoric hardware), but also being able to just let 'er rip on really capable gear, too. Reminds me of just what Puppy is capable of, given half-a-chance....


Mike.

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I think it happens to all uf us, cardiac episode or not.
I'm going to interpret this as a sort of apology, and accept it. Thanks, not many here have the largesse to do that.

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