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Old 12-16-2015, 11:46 PM   #1
EldonCool
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A Mac question


Most anyone I know that uses a Mac does not know much
about the nuts and bolts like the X terminal emulator. So
I thought some linux guru may be able to quide me to where
I can get a good X terminal for Mac, something like konsole
that is on my linux distribution.

That X terminal Mac provides is the pits, compared to several
terminal emulators you can get on linux.

So anyone know where I can get a good terminal emulator
Mac?
 
Old 12-17-2015, 03:50 AM   #2
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Can you give some information about anything related to console installed on macosx?
 
Old 12-17-2015, 04:08 AM   #3
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iTerm2
 
Old 12-17-2015, 10:08 AM   #4
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I had found iTerm2 and downloaded it. I can use it but it does not
please me.

It has a very small font, and I cannot figure out if there is anyway to make it
larger. There is a button called info, and it brings up a display that gives
promise, but no matter what I try there nothing ever makes any sense to
me, or when it makes sense, it still does not help. Example, I hit info,
then Text, and it gives me some stuff that appears to let me change from
font size between 10 and 12. Both are smaller than what I want. I don't
want to have to use a magnifying glass to work with this thing.

The web site tells me this about fonts:
Quote:
Fonts
While iTerm2 does not require monospaced fonts, they look much better than proportionately spaced fonts. If you want to use Consolas, you'll need to correct its baseline offset as described at how to fix Consolas baseline.
No idea in the world what they are talking about. I just want a font that
I can see.

Not much on the web site makes any sense to me.
example I go to documentation, and choose menu items. I get
an explanation of of various menu items, but I have no idea in the
world where to find this menu. Where is it? Now if they told me
how to find the menu, maybe the explanation would be worth
reading but then maybe not because here is the list of explanations
of menu items:

http://iterm2.com/documentation-menu-items.html


I have no idea what most of them are talking about. Their documentation
is complete gibberish to me. I have a bachelors degree in Computer
Science and about 30 years experience in a wide range of systems, and
yet I have no idea what they are talking about usually.

iTerm2 is probably fantastic if only I could figure out what they are
talking about and could read the font. Actually if I could read the
font, I would not even care about all the other features probably,
as it would work for me.
 
Old 12-17-2015, 09:05 PM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldonCool View Post
Most anyone I know that uses a Mac does not know much
about the nuts and bolts like the X terminal emulator. So
I thought some linux guru may be able to quide me to where
I can get a good X terminal for Mac, something like konsole
that is on my linux distribution.

That X terminal Mac provides is the pits, compared to several
terminal emulators you can get on linux.

So anyone know where I can get a good terminal emulator
Mac?
ive used both linux and Mac for years.

xTerm/konsole for Linux are only slightly better then the terminal for Mac.

the few things that are missing from Mac's terminal are as follows:

1. no middle click for copy/paste
1a. you can use cmd + c/x/v to copy/paste/cut in Terminal.
2. the vi editor that comes with OSx is semi broke, but works well enough unless you try to backspace, then everything gets messed up.

other then that, everything that konsol or other types of linux terminal windows used either via GUI or not work the same as terminal in OSx. why? simple OSx is BSD based as is BASH.

what exactly are the issues you are having with the terminal window in OSx.
 
Old 12-19-2015, 12:33 AM   #6
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Quote:
what exactly are the issues you are having with the terminal window in OSx.
I just do not like the appearance, the type is very slim, also smaller
than I like, and it is white background, with that thin black text.
I prefer black background and either yellow or green text of larger
size. Maybe there is something available to customize it that I missed.
If there is then, maybe I could be satisfied with it.

I use VI mostly, but am just starting to use the Mac editor. I have
the editor joe downloaded but have not had the nerve to install it yet.
I like the Word Star version of joe the best.

One thing I would like to know is more about installing things on Mac.
I have some drivers setting there for my cannon printer that I am afraid
to install. The directions with them does not give me a warm and fuzzy
feeling, and I really don't understand the basic way things are supposed
to be installed on a Mac. Probably should do an internet search and find
out what the standard is for installing on Mac.

I use a 3 button mouse on Mac, actually the same mouse and keyboard
that I use on Windows and linux, so there is no difference in feel
of the operation. I can cut an paste with the mouse on anyone of
them. I have a number of things plugged into a USB strip, and just
switch the strip between computers when I switch operating system.
One of the things is a lexar thumb drive that I keep all my work files
on, that way it is available to all systems,

Last edited by EldonCool; 12-19-2015 at 12:40 AM. Reason: added.
 
Old 12-19-2015, 06:13 PM   #7
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I found the solution:

A good X terminal is " cathode " from the apple ap store, cost is $4.99

It has lots of changeable characteristics. the first thing you want to do is
to click Themes in the top menu bar and change the display theme.

I chose the "clean slate' theme. The one that they use to default tries to
make the display look like some idiot TV display. But the clean slate makes
a nice X terminal with large text, and a black background, and you can
change all sorts of stuff to suit yourself.

Last edited by EldonCool; 12-19-2015 at 06:14 PM.
 
Old 12-19-2015, 11:54 PM   #8
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I found a short coming in cathode. I cannot cut and paste with my
3 button mouse. I can do it with the standard X terminal but not this
program cathode. So I guess the search continues, for an X terminal that
I can live with.
 
Old 09-10-2016, 11:07 AM   #9
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iterm and iterm2

This is an old thread, but I have finally figured out the solution to my problem.

Somehow I have got iterm and iterm2 both loaded, I don't know if there is
any difference, but they both work just fine.

My problem with them before was the size of the font was too small to read.

The solution to that is this:

You hold down the apple command key, the one next to the space bar, and
hit the plus or minus key, + or - , and whenever you hit the plus key the
font gets larger, a likewise it gets smaller for the minus key. I have a
separate keyboard, that I use with both Mac and windows, and it works
on the separate keyboard also, but they key you hold down on my
separate keyboard is the one with the microsoft flag on it, in between
the Ctrl and Alt keys.

This gives you a nice readable font size, you have to do this whenever
you initially run the program, but then you have a large font until you
exit the program.

Also I have a 3 button mouse, that I use on both Mac and Windows machines.
and the 3 button mouse works for cut and paste on both iterm and Iterm2,
and it works in the editor vi also. This really is a better, easier to read
terminal that the standard Terminal, and also it has a black background,
with white font displayed. If I could change the font color to yellow or
green it would be better, but at least it is usable in white, once you make
it big enough.

I plug both my extra 3 button mouse, and extra keyboard into a USB
strip, and I then I just plug that strip into a USB port on my Mac or
Windows whenever I use either one. That way my keyboard use and
mouse use is identical on both machines, and I don't have the problem
of having to know a different feel and location of keys on the two
separate machines.

Last edited by EldonCool; 09-10-2016 at 11:14 AM.
 
  


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