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I'm an average Linux user, having made the switch in the early 2000's. Since then, I've had constant problems with Web browsers. I have gone back & forth between Chrome & Firefox the last couple of years and it's gotten to the point where neither is a viable option for me.
Coincidentally, since this thread has started, Firefox has crashed at least three times a day for me. And I can no longer use Chrome because after I open three tabs, my hard drive grinds like crazy and I can't even move my mouse while the pages are loading. I have 2G of RAM, which I realize isn't much nowadays (said sarcastically).
After researching other reasons why I may have these problems, it seems they both just like to blame extensions. The only one I use is Adblock Plus and I have Flash disabled by default. (Don't even get me started on Flash!)
So here I am looking for a third option. I don't really care about the corporate b.s. or being tracked by Google or any other issues, I just want a fast browser that works. It's great that the Linux world gives me choices, but it sucks having to waste so much time experimenting with software simply to browse the web. My buddy was joking about me going back to Microsoft. :P
Three crashes in a day? Woah, there's something wrong there.
I use Firefox since ages and there has been a time when it was really unstable and crashed constantly, but those day are long gone for me. Honestly, I don't remember when it was the last time FF crashed.
I use the latest FF from the Gentoo portage tree, with Flash enabled and a lot of extensions installed. I usually have more than a dozen tabs open at the same time, plus 40 or so "dormant" in other tab groups, and Firefox usually stays open from when I log into X to when I shut down the pc 9 hours later.
My computer is a recent laptop, but only a few months ago I was still using a small ~5 years old netbook and the situation was the same, no problem there at all.
You may find another browser that works better for you, sure, but you seem to have other issues that don't depend on the browser choice.
Three crashes in a day? Woah, there's something wrong there.
I agree. Been using Firefox for ages with never a crash, on a twenty or thirty machines, old and new. Have flashblock, and adblock running, with NoScript on all the time.
It is perhaps NoScript that has been preventing the crashes ? It has been saving Firefox from all the spaghetti code JavaScript that is on the web ?
It probably does have something to do with JavaScript. I see that "stop or continue" pop-up all the time. I will try NoScript.
Anyway, to try to get back on topic, this is another example of the frustration an average Joe like me has to endure when trying browse the Web. It's unfortunate there are so many factors that contribute to which browser to use and whether or not it'll work on a particular system.
As far as I understand Konqueror (and Requonk?) work with FF-extensions, but I never tried it (perhaps if I have time tonight...).
The websites of both browsers don't mention such a feature, so I just installed them to try it out. I couldn't find any options for this in both browsers. Konqueror has an option to scan for plugins, but it only found the Flash plugin.
I really would have been surpised by this, it seems unlikely to me that Firefox plugins , especially those that make extensive changes, would work with KHTML or Webkit browsers.
I would switch away from Firefox immediately if there would be one browser that comes close to what Firefox+Pentadactyl+Adblock+NoScript+VideoDownloadHelper offer to me. vimb comes pretty close, but is not there yet.
I got your wanting 5/5 and use Palemoon + pentadactyl 1.05 a lot on an Atom monocor, it's light and fast under myfingers. Fx esr does great up to 15 tabs on my other, low profile Atom z520 with extraordinary shitty Intel gma500 and 980 MB DDR2. Does even play any youtube videos now it's configured !
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Let's be honest, compared with other browsers Firefox is slow as hell, I have to restart it at least once a day (my main system is running 24/7) due to it becoming unresponsive and it sometimes just acts weird.
Did test a dozen browsers down to Xombrero and elinks (yeah) on my i3 and on my aging atoms. Only Palemoon is slightl faster but Fx 42 takes lead back above 15 tabs; it is then consistently faster and lighter than any other, Midori included. It'de great to compare if you have real figures.
Now Fennec... uh, that one drives me nutts! And yet I didn't find one that's much faster AND has the features Fennec provides, aahh
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I use seamonkey and keep firefox and chromium for spares. Seamonkey just seems a bit less bloated and more responsive to me (and the seamonkey port for OpenBSD is certainly less prone to core dumps than firefox).
Collegues repeatidly showed us Seamonkey is lighter and kisser. Have yet to test it.
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I use Google Chrome for Netflix and Amazon video, Chromium for sites with a lot of scripts from various sources and Firefox with NoScript (hence the use of Chrimium), AdBlock+, Privacy Badger and HTTPS everywhere installed as well as a cookie whitelist (something I've not seen in any other browser) for everything else. To me Firefox just allows me to get on with things as I want to.
As mentioned by EmaRsk earlier even if Mozila have changed tack ideologically that can't be improved by changing to Google Chrome and even Chromium, with its links to Google, isn't really any better.
As far as functionality goes the only thing I find missing from Firefox is the ability to play Netflix and Amazon Prime video other than that I don't find Chromium or Chrome any faster or better at rendering and I've yet to see Firefox (currently on 46.0a1 (2015-12-27)) crash.
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