Hi all,

I just finished a project of mine called KirraMail, a live DvD email server. A list of it's features are:

* Built on Slackware 12
* KDE Desktop Environment
* Qmail (MTA supporting unlimited domains)
* 2.6.24-rc3 kernel (smp support)
* MySQL-5.0.47
* Apache-2.2.4
* PHP-5.2.3
* Asterisk (Open Source PBX & Telephony Platform)
* Secure IMAP and SMTP through TLS
* Clamav (anti-virus)
* Spamassassin (spam detection)
* Webalizer for a visual display of website statistics
* SquirrellMail web interface for easy access to mail across the internet
* Qmailadmin and Vqadmin web-based administration software for virtual domains
* Webmin (web interface unix administration)
* Installable
* Serves as a Rescue/Testing DvD

I know some people think we have too many distros out there already, but as far as I know no one has a fully functioning mail server ready to go. I would love some feedback on it, if you would like to download the iso I would recommend a download manager, I running the server from home on a slow ADSL connection. If you have a faster server/connection and would like to help out, I can upload the iso.

Website
http://www.kirramail.com

ScreenShots
http://www.kirramail.com/downloads/screenshots

ISO
http://www.kirramail.com/downloads/i...il-1.0-rc1.iso

Thanks Fotoguy

Hi
I have download it . It takes a long time. I have 2 problems.
The first. There is a problem with the the mouse during the KDE sesion.
What are the passwords for the services.
Thanks
One more question.
What is the difference between the iso 01 and 03
Thanks once again

Yeah it does take a long time, unfortunately I'm am running it on my home adsl connection and it is quite slow.

The passwords are on the README file which I have sent to you on your other email address that you have contacted me on.

The difference between the 01 and 03 versions is 01 version does not have Squid, Snort, Webmin, Asterisk. With Version 03, I had to remove the website and forum which the 01 version had, so now there is no website, so you are able to install any website of your own choice.

Before I start download it, can you send me the readme file ?
But the better you publish it on your site: http://www.kirramail.com/

By the way, check it, graphics are not appear.
Also you should check some links started with: http://10.1.1.100/...

Hi alMubarmij,

Yeah I have been having a few issues with the site over the last couple of months, hopefully that private address should not come up again, all fix now, I hope.

There is a readme file on the site, left hand site under the Articles heading. If you can hold off on downloading just yet, I'm testing the rc4 version, and hopefully it will be out by the end of the weekend.

I have fixed a few of the installed package that I had built, and this time remembered to add the readme file to the distro as well. Also added squidguard to accompany squid, with a load of sites in the databse to block.

What's happened to the web site?
Some friends & I are building a mail server & KirraMail would be interesting to look at, if not use.

Hey archtoad6, my website has not been up for nearly 7-8 months now, had hardware problems with my server on and off over the first half of this year, until if finally died, and unfortunately with the new job I started over the last year I have had very little time to get the website online again.

I do have an iso of version 1 that I had released, I can try to quickly setup a webserver for you too download from. This version is based on slackware 12.1 and I think that I added a few more applications, like MythTv.

Yes, please. TIA

OK I have setup the server and added the iso to download, I would suggest to use a download manager, I still have a really slow adsl connection, and the iso is 1.8gb so it will take quite a long time to download.

Also I am moving house in 2 weeks and will have to have the internet disconnected and I don't know how long it will be before I will be on the net again.

I will try to give you as much assistance with it as I can, I will have to use someone else's internet connection in the meantime to check back on this thread till I get connected again. The distro does need a lot of polishing and a few apps may not work as they should, just haven't had much time this year to put the effort into it.

So please feel free to ask any question, will be glad to help out

http://www.kirramail.com/downloads/KirraMail-1.0.iso
http://www.kirramail.com/downloads/K...1.0.iso-md5sum

Thanks, the d/l has begun. I'm using the KDE/Konqueror built-in d/l mgr. It seems to have stabilized at 26 KB/s & claims about 20 hrs. left in the d/l.

If you know anything about setting up torrents & think it's polished enough, I'd be interested to try setting one up.

At home I've got "standard" AT&T Basic aDSL -- something like 128-256 up & 384-1500 down (kbps). At the computer club, which is also my ISP; I have 10/100 ethernet & 54 WiFi direct to the server room & out to the backbone. I have a small office & keep a 64-bit Shuttle there always on & always connected. If I don't do the torrent, I'll foot net KirraMail over to it.

My interest is in the mail server aspect of it -- the club/ISP needs a new one & my Samba & Network Administration SIG (Special Interest Group) is interested in building one; even if it's not adopted, we think the exercise would good for us.

Thanks for the offer of help, we may need it. 2 Q's for now:

1. Do I need the README file mentioned earlier in the thread? (It's not currently in downloads/.)
   
2. While I was there, I registered for the forum & read the SMF (Simple Machines Forum) Wikipedia® article -- how long have you been running it & is it or was it included in the DVD?

Final d/l stats: 5% - 93.2 MB - 26 KB/s - 19+ hrs. remaining

No I haven't had a chance to look into torrents at present, I'll have to wait till the new year, a person I know has said he might be able to find some space on his hosting servers for the iso, supposed to have a 255mb fiber connection, if he can then I might not need a torrent, but I will keep this in mind, thanks.

I can understand that, one of the original ideas why I designed a live mail server. So many times I have seen people posting on forums having trouble setting up mail servers, or been given a task by the boss to get one up and running with minimal downtime, or just wanting to set one up and play around with it, now you can just boot up and in 2 minutes have a full email server with webmail access, spam and anti-virus etc.

I myself started out using SME server, but I found that while it was cut right down to be just a mail server, I was unable to expand it's functionality for things that I need, unless someone else had built packages for it. I found that using a full distro was a better idea since size of hard drives over the last 5 years is no longer a issue.

This live dvd will act like all the other live distros out there, if all boots up ok, it will boot to a kde desktop screen. It already has a test domain, and a test user built in, so you can start to play around straight away and you don't have to install it, you can just use it live, and it wont touch any OS's already installed. And if you decide that you don't want it, all you have to do is turn it off, no harm done.

If you do want to install it, I have included a rather quick 'n' dirty bash script, but most people will probably be able to install it themselves with out the script, I have always wanted to design a proper GUI installer, but unfortunately I'm not a programmer, bash is all I have had to go on over the years.




No I finally remembered to add it to the live dvd this time, but I will add it to the downloads directory for you just in case. The README is not well written, but has most of the important information, another thing I need to get around to putting some time into.




Thanks for registering, no I haven't included SMF or tinyportal on the dvd. I did originally a couple of years ago, and tried contacting the developers of SMF and Tinyportal to get permission to include their programs on the dvd, but I had no reply from one, even after several attempts to contact them, and the other said that would only agree if the other one did. So it was easier to just remove it and have the default slackeware html page.

The one I have now I just put up yesterday, but I have been running SMF, Tinyportal and the mailserver for about 2 years now, the mail server side I migrated to another computer, but left the website down since it was getting very little attention.

I just lost a long, & I hope thoughtful, in-line reply when a rogue page in a separate tab crashed Konqueror; I need to look at Chrome. (Does SMF/TinyPortal have an autosave feature like Gmail?)

Anyway, I would have replied sooner, but I'm in the middle of a cold that has been threatening for about a month.

The d/l is complete but the md5sum fails -- any chance that the sum file is wrong rather than the ISO? -- I have would checked it by burning a copy & booting it, but I left my new pack of DVD+RWs at the club.

Any objection to my putting up a torrent?
Would you help w/ the "documentation", i.e. on-line description?

Wikipedia® says you're in UTC+10, while I am in UTC-6. I think that means you're 16 hrs. earlier, possibly on the day before. So if we -- the mail server group -- have a meeting here from 2-5 pm on a Sat., that's 8pm-1am Fri. for you??? We might be able to do live chat if you're interested/willing.

Would you be interested in our, hopefully low volume, mailing list -- http://lists.houstonlinux.org/cgi-bi...asig-announce?

Good to know that KirraMail is designed to boot & just work -- that is exactly what my group needs right now.

Wikipedia® says that SME Server is based on CentOS, would it have been that difficult to add back the other pkgs.? I don't like RPMs, in fact I switched to Debian & its derivatives just about the time I would have had to learn to deal w/ them; but with yum available, is it that difficult to build SME Server up to the "full service" mail server you want? From a security point of view I think it's better to start w/ a minimal install & add stuff in, rather than start w/ a full desktop install & prune the unnecessary.

The test domain and test user are great ideas.

So is the bash install script, however quick 'n' dirty. Can't help w/ a proper GUI installer, I just do bash too.

Maybe we can help improve the README.

Which one didn't reply, SMF or TinyPortal? Maybe links or a wget script . . .

Can the "Newbie" designator in your forum be (easily) changed, say to "New Member"?

I haven't used SMF/Tinyportal extensively, and have never used Gmail so I don't know if it has a autosave feature.

That's ok I know how it is, I'm in the middle of getting ready to move house 2 days before christmas.

I checked the iso before uploading it to the server by burning it and booting of a disc, everything went well on that part, I have also burnt another copy using K3B and check the mdsum value and it came up the same as the one in the downloads directory, must be a bad iso, it may still burn and boot.

No I have no objection to you putting up a torrent, that would be a great help. Yeah I can help with the online documentation, never had anything to do with torrents before, but I will help out where I can.


Not to sure if I can help out with this, maybe every now and again perhaps, not to sure how much time I can put into the project at the moment with work and family commitments.

Yeah I would mind being on your mailing list, I don't know how long until I get back on the net so my domain wont be able to recieve any mail for a while. It will also depend on my ISP, not to sure because of where I'm moving t whether I can use my current one, or have to go to a new one, some don't allow using servers through their networks.

Yes having a smaller install is better from security point of view, the origianl version of SME was based on redhat 8, and I think yum wasn't around in those days, or at least was in it's infancy, and was not as good as it is now.

I did originally have a smaller size version that was stripped down, but I was also running another project called KirraDesktop, so to reduce the work load I merged both the projects.

I though since most people who would use this would be new to linux,or just starting out, would feel more comfortable and familiar with a desktop screen, Also It can be a live/rescue disc, workstation or server, depending on your requirements.

Any help would be appreciated, like what happened to you at the top of your post, I spent a couple of hours one night writing the README, when I went to uploaded it, something happened and I lost or that work, that's why the README is so bad and sort of not complete.

Geez...that was 2 years ago, I couldn't remember which one it was.

I did decided to put a script in there to allow people to download the latest version of SME/Tinportal, just the project fell by the wayside this year and haven't had a chance to fine polish the project for the next release.


Pretty sure it can be changed easily, I just have to go through and have a good look at all the settings for the website.

Edit:
2009-12-16 20:09:06 CT = UTC-6
Server is up & 2nd d/l is in progress.

Your server seems to be down again. I was going to try the d/l again, this time to my box at the club. Any chance of getting it back up for a day or so before your move next week?

Sat. 2009/12/19
D/L #2 finished / md5sum still bad / DVD boots

Boot time on DVD was about 5 min., we had a working mail server about 2 min. after that. Sweet.

The README is more incomplete than badly written.

Tue. 2009/12/22
Spent almost all day yesterday messing w/ h/w to get a good working server box (Dell Dimension B110 - 2.5 Celeron, 1G RAM) together. Once the h/w was working, KirraMail booted & ran. My biggest problem is that it won't recognize the mouse & keyboard provided by my iogear USB KVM past the splash screen. Don't know if that's a Slack thing or a problem w/ the h/w. Because it shows the lilo menu OK, I tend to suspect Slack.

Then the real fun began.

We already realized that to make this a realistic test, we needed a public IP address & a domain name. At least 4 of us already have personal domains & it had been suggested that we ask one of them to set up a sub-domain. Instead, I took advantage of the fact that our ISP (the club) gives each of its subscribers 3 IP addresses & makes them "sticky" -- they are assigned through DHCP, but they rarely change because the ISP does not mess w/ them to make them deliberately volatile. Just the opposite of PPPoE. I connected the new server through a hub directly to my aDSL "modem" & got another public IP. Then I went to dyndns.com & got a couple of free domain names: kirra.ath.cx & kirra.kicks-ass.net, & set both to resolve to the IP address of the new server. I hope you don't mind my use of "kirra".

The inclusion of "test.domain" did make it easier to do some of the preliminary testing. The next lessons were learning to use Qmailadmin and Vqadmin. So I added myself to test.domain, then I added kirra.ath.cx to the domain list & aliased kirra.kicks-ass.net to kirra.ath.cx.

You are welcome to an account, send e-mail to postmaster at either of the above.
Edit: These domain names have lapsed, & accts. are no longer available, sorry.

I have 2 immediate questions:

* How do I save the R/W portion of the UnionFS in order to restore on a reboot?

* Can the install script put KirraMail on a USB thumb drive or hard drive?