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Old 12-17-2013, 06:32 PM   #16
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i did a search for dell linux and the first product i found is on their business site:
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You're paying almost nothing for the Windows license anyway,

I don't know about 'non-compete' clauses although this isn't exactly a new claim. I also expect that a company like HP or Dell which sells millions of computers will get a better 'wholesale' price than an average user who buys maybe two computers. I doubt the average employee at any of these companies below the executive level are going to see such a contract if it exists.

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Old 12-17-2013, 09:19 PM   #18
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The harsh truth is that most buyers expect to have Windows on a computer.

Remember that, however irritating Microsoft's business practices may be and have been, it was the Windows GUI that made computers usable by persons who were intimidated by the intricacies of dir, cd, wp (word perfect), and so on, on the DOS command line. Without Windows (and, yeah, I know that something else would have come along, but it was Windows), computers would never have become almost as ubiquitous as televisions.

The great majority of consumers think that "computing = Windows." If they know of an alternative, it's likely Apple.

For a large volume manufacturer of anything, once an assembly line is set up to manufacture something a certain way, making an exception (installing a different OS that appeals to a smidgen of their market) costs more than doing it the routine way.

Then there is the "bloatware bonus." You know all those junkie "trial" programs that come on that Windows computer? Vendors pay manufacturers to put there; that's a revenue stream (sewer?) that doesn't exist in Linux World.

I will be the last person to argue that Microsoft is a good corporate citizen, but I think it is possible to paint them as more Svengali-an than they are, or, indeed, than anyone can be.
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You can buy laptop with linux here in central europe, but all you probably get is commandline and (linux) unsuported wireless card. That was my expiriance when we sold laptops.

Still better than bloated Windows as user frankbell named the problem above.

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Originally Posted by rokytnji View Post
again backing up my points.

also keep in mind i stated that MS will increase the fees that OEMs pay if they sell other then MS OSs. i never said they would cut them off completely. i chose my words carefully as that is how MS works and how they financially force OEMs to reduce their selection for alternative OSs or prevent them from selling them at all.


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