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Old 01-07-2016, 04:51 AM   #46
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[QUOTE=beachboy2;5470591]MrScoville,

The only reason I am bothering to reply to your post is to point out that the correct indefinite article to use before a vowel is an, not a.

The reason for the 'n' after the indefinite article is to make the following unconsonanted vowel easier to pronounce. In the majority of US accents the initial vowel has a prepended consonant. thus making the 'n' redundant. Even in British English the written 'n' is habitual rather than grammatically correct.
I also write from West Wales, but since I am a native Welsh speaker who learnt English as a foreign language perhaps I have a better grasp of the technicalities.

RTFM my friend!
 
Old 01-07-2016, 06:06 AM   #47
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mmm... biggest problem on ' penguin' ...

RTFM

why some folks is so PITA (arch,gentoo,fora mostly)

Not sure I understand, you mean that instead of working yourself to learn and understand already available free knowledge, you complains about people not giving enough free time/work for you being lazy ?

Or maybe, I missed the logic in your post ?
 
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:21 AM   #48
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mmm... biggest problem on ' penguin' ...

RTFM

why some folks is so PITA (arch,gentoo,fora mostly)

The Arch and Gentoo people have gone to great lengths to provide all kinds of information necessary to run the respective distro and much more in their wikis, so why should they explain stuff over and over again when it is all already spelled out in the documentation? Of course, if something is unclear in the documentation and needs further explanation you should ask, but questions that are already answered in their wikis shouldn't be asked on their forums, I would think.
 
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Old 01-07-2016, 08:22 AM   #49
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Those question will be bike shedded or deleted all together.
 
Old 01-07-2016, 08:52 AM   #50
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... you should ask, ...
What a radical concept?!.
 
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Old 01-07-2016, 09:39 AM   #51
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Arbuthnot,

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I also write from West Wales, but since I am a native Welsh speaker who learnt English as a foreign language perhaps I have a better grasp of the technicalities.

RTFM my friend!
Maybe we can start a West Wales LUG together and live happily ever after?
 
Old 01-07-2016, 10:00 AM   #52
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mmm... biggest problem on ' penguin' ...

RTFM

why some folks is so PITA (arch,gentoo,fora mostly)

How about trying to walk a mile in their shoes for a change?

By that I mean, how about you spend days/weeks of your own free time writing up pages and pages of documentation for a tool, covering every nook and cranny, all corner cases, etc., just to have somebody give it a cursory glance (or even worse, not even look at it at all) and then turn around and ask a question that's answered on page ONE (not only that, but then they get ANGRY when you tell them that it's answered on page one).

Maybe the first time you might oblige them, but how about the second, third, fourth...fast forward a year and you've answered this question that's covered on page one of your manual over 100 times, how patient will you be then?
 
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Old 01-07-2016, 10:27 AM   #53
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Arbuthnot,



Maybe we can start a West Wales LUG together and live happily ever after?


Na! Been there, done that. I think the last meeting, certainly the last one I attended, was in 1997. Three people present. The problem is that whilst on line the vast majority of Linux users are pleasant, knowledgeable, helpful, and urbane, weirdly, in the flesh you wouldn't want to be trapped in a pub with them, never mind a lift.
 
Old 01-07-2016, 10:44 AM   #54
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Smile

Arbuthnot,

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the vast majority of Linux users are pleasant, knowledgeable, helpful, and urbane, weirdly, in the flesh you wouldn't want to be trapped in a pub with them, never mind a lift
Well at least we can agree on something.
 
Old 01-07-2016, 01:11 PM   #55
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Arbuthnot,



Well at least we can agree on something.


Yeah. Of course the problem is that in any random group of Linux fans, at one end of the table you have a noob who has just spent a fortnight trying to figure out how to put a naked picture of his girlfriend as his desktop wallpaper, at the other end you have a guy who has just rewritten grub2 in Ada and is seeking new challenges and neither is aware that the other one may not be the most incomprehensible idiot present!
 
Old 01-07-2016, 01:40 PM   #56
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Yeah. Of course the problem is that in any random group of Linux fans,...
Note that at least, there CAN be "any random group of Linux fans"....

Because try to imagine a "random group of Microsoft fans". Is it only possible ?
 
Old 01-07-2016, 02:03 PM   #57
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Note that at least, there CAN be "any random group of Linux fans"....

Because try to imagine a "random group of Microsoft fans". Is it only possible ?
http://www.overclock.net/ I really don't need to imagine it
 
Old 01-08-2016, 07:05 PM   #58
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For the most part linux users are very helpful in any forum, LQ being one of the better ones if not the best.
 
Old 01-08-2016, 07:49 PM   #59
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at one end of the table you have a noob who has just spent a fortnight trying to figure out how to put a naked picture of his girlfriend as his desktop wallpaper, at the other end you have a guy who has just rewritten grub2
Perhaps, that is the freedom, or inclusiveness, of 'Linux' or part of it.

To insist that everyone knows how to use the CLI is only part of the freedom but you have to have patience, I think, in this age of easy-to-use c*ap.

Maybe someone's interest will be excited by alternatives.

fred.
 
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Old 01-08-2016, 07:53 PM   #60
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mmm... biggest problem on ' penguin' ...

RTFM

why some folks is so PITA (arch,gentoo,fora mostly)

Because you didn't RTFM and had to be told to do it?
 
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