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03-10-2017, 12:48 PM
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Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,667
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Originally Posted by Mr. Macintosh
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
I would not have expected that. Since Windows has a foothold in the business market and there are many business programs which are only for Windows, desktop Linux has always been more of a home operating system for hobbists.
I really would have expected the Home part of Dell’s site to have laptops preloaded with Ubuntu and that the Work part of their site would have only had Windows.
The only folks who would probably use Linux at work (that I can think of) would be software developers, web developers, and maybe network administrators. Pretty much everyone else in business would be using Windows due to the vast amount of Windows-only software.
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I think the big difference in this case is that Dell Business store offers a great deal of customization, whereas the Dell Home store tends to offer specific configurations.
Frankly I think some of this is driven by Microsoft and their Windows 10 Home licensing. I have a hunch that Dell's deal with Microsoft places certain restrictions on the configurations of CPU/RAM/storage etc. that can be bundled with Windows 10 Home.
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03-10-2017, 04:55 PM
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#17
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Registered: Sep 2015
Distribution: Debian
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Originally Posted by snowpine
I think the big difference in this case is that Dell Business store offers a great deal of customization, whereas the Dell Home store tends to offer specific configurations.
Frankly I think some of this is driven by Microsoft and their Windows 10 Home licensing. I have a hunch that Dell's deal with Microsoft places certain restrictions on the configurations of CPU/RAM/storage etc. that can be bundled with Windows 10 Home.
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Oh, okay. That’s interesting.
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03-12-2017, 08:29 PM
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Registered: Mar 2008
Location: New York
Distribution: Debian
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yes, Gnome 3 big buttons help while using the touch screen. WIndows 8.1 & 10.
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03-15-2017, 04:02 PM
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#19
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Nov 2010
Posts: 4
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Thanks again to all for your comments. I was particularly interested in the comments by snowpine and Mr. Macintosh about Dell offering Ubunto for the XPS 13. Because my XPS is new, I contacted tech support at Dell to find out 1) if there was a download of the Ubunto OS and 2) if I changed my as-purchased (service tag) SDD partions to dual boot or completely removed Windows 10, how would that affect the support and warranty. The answer is yes Dell dos make available a free download of the Ubunto OS they used, but they would not provide any support if I replaced the OS. Dell's policy is to support ONLY the setup purchased, even though they may sell different ones. I have not received a reply on the dual boot option, but given the above reason, I am guessing that 'any" change may void their coverage. I will repost if more is learned. For now I am in the deliberation stage because I definitely do not want to loose any support from Dell--this fully loaded laptop was a very expensive investment for me.
Thanks to all again.
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03-16-2017, 12:51 AM
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Member
Registered: Jun 2016
Distribution: any&all, in VBox; Ol'UnixCLI; NO GUI resources
Posts: 999
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Deliberation / planning / "100%SAFE" experimenting [FIRST] is always GOOD!
I like the idea of:
"Booting to a Live CD of something mainstream should quickly answer ...
[Ah!:] Linux touchscreen support resides in the kernel.
Try a liveUSB boot and see what works."
Also, 're-pitching' VirtualBox (IF you have time to play a bit). It's a 'safe&easy'
-application- that can be completely removed. (It's -my- whole Linux world!)
A main advantage is that you can still web-research during 'glitches'.
Best wishes! ENJOY, patiently and comfortably
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03-17-2017, 12:30 AM
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#21
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Registered: Nov 2010
Posts: 4
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Thank you, Jjanel, for the reminder that using a bootable USB with the Dell Ubunto gives me the option to "play" without losing any coverage by Dell Corp.
I will post my experience the Dell Ubunto when I make time (outside of work) to try it. Until then, I will continue to read additional posts on this thread from others.
Ciao for now.
-->Edward.
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03-17-2017, 12:04 PM
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Registered: Sep 2015
Distribution: Debian
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Originally Posted by Edward@PNNL
Thank you, Jjanel, for the reminder that using a bootable USB with the Dell Ubunto gives me the option to "play" without losing any coverage by Dell Corp.
I will post my experience the Dell Ubunto when I make time (outside of work) to try it. Until then, I will continue to read additional posts on this thread from others.
Ciao for now.
-->Edward.
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I just want to mention that it’s Ubuntu, not "Ubunto”. And of course, if you ask Martin Sargent (TheNewScreensavers), he’ll explain that Ubuntu means “humanity towards others", and Leo Laporte will say “I know, I know”. That bit is halfway through this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UwCJtLn668
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03-29-2017, 04:38 PM
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Registered: Mar 2008
Location: New York
Distribution: Debian
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I ran Windows 8.1 when it first came out. Total chaos!
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03-30-2017, 03:03 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Sydney
Distribution: Rocky 9.2
Posts: 18,415
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As above, using a LiveCd will give you a chance to try Linux without losing DELL support.
(NB: it'll run a bit slow for obvious reasons; ignore that aspect)
Of course if you then install Linux either replacing MSWin or dual boot, you'll lose DELL support.
If you want to keep DELL support, use a VM system of some kind.
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03-30-2017, 10:06 AM
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Registered: Mar 2008
Location: New York
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Perhaps, call Dell support and express your desire to install Ubuntu. They might help...
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03-31-2017, 05:08 AM
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#26
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LQ Guru
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Sydney
Distribution: Rocky 9.2
Posts: 18,415
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@ceantuco: I think that was covered in post #19
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but they would not provide any support if I replaced the OS. Dell's policy is to support ONLY the setup purchased, even though they may sell different ones
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Basically (and I'd expect this) they only support their own install, not yours, even if you install a look-alike.
It does actually make sense if you think about it.
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04-01-2017, 05:45 PM
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#27
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Oct 2015
Posts: 3
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If you ran Windows 7 before, you will like Mint Cinnamon. Fully customizable. A great operating system.
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