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Old 11-30-2004, 11:06 AM   #1
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Question My own server

I want to make my own server cause I learning php now and there almost isn't any server that supports php (and mysql or oracle).
But I've a problem, I don't know how to! (yes, I know I'm a )
I've a ADSL modem, a router and 2 computers. Where do I have to place the server? after the modem, after the router or even before the modem?
And when I have placed it at the good place, what do I've to do to let others access my site? What do I've to install (I guess it's not only apache that I've to install) and what do I have to do more?
Please help me.
Old 11-30-2004, 11:18 AM   #2
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How would your server connect if its before the modem??

ADSL Modem > Router > Computers (Server)

Go in that order. Setup your server and then from your router you'll need to forward any ports it will be listening on to your server, like port 80 for html or www (apache).

You'll definitely need php and apache installed (at least those I would recommend for serving up php pages). You might also want to install a database like mysql, since alot of php depends on database backends for learning, setting up online applications/pages, etc.

And you'll also probably want to register a domain name, you certainly don't want to have all your friends remember your IP address to get to your site. And if that's the case, you'll also need to setup a DNS server along with it, either on the same server or a different one, so your IP resolves to a name, etc.

I'd suggest reading some more on serving up websites, setting up DNS, domain names, etc.... before starting php, there's so much more in just setting up a server than just jumping right in to learn php or any other web based program language. You'll also want to learn about firewalls and security along with all of this to protect your site, etc.

Regards and good luck! If you run into any detailed questions you can't find answers to, feel free to ask here.
Old 11-30-2004, 11:30 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reaction,
but I've two other questions:
When I have my ip (from, and I use it, I login at my modem configuration. But when others (e.g. friends) do this, they get the message that the page isn't found. I know that my internal ip of my modem (so the one via the network) is different. What's the problem? or is this only a problem cause I've no server?

Second question:
What's a good tut to learn, I find a lot whit google. But I maybe does some of you know wich one is realy good one.

Old 11-30-2004, 12:07 PM   #4
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This is because your modem configuration is web based and listens on port 80 by default... and it also has external access disabled... So think about this logically...

Your modem/router is using 2 IP addresses... internal/external... internal is probbaly something like and the external can be any number..

You need to go into your router configuration and set it to listen on a different port.. (port 81 perhaps?) and then set port forwarding for port 80 to the internal (static) ip address of the box which will be your server. Let me try to draw this out...

[Modem/Router] (most simple home routers also have a built in 4-port switch which is what you connect standard computers to.)
|::::| |::::|

I don't know how well that works... lol.. but connect your server just as your regular desktop computer, and give it a static IP, something like or whatever you wish.. so long as it complies with the subnet...

Now do an install of whatever OS you wish to use for the server... If you want to be serious about hosting a real website, I recommend $70 for Red Hat Professioanl Workstation (which is ACTUALLY RHEL 3 WS) which includes all Red Hat updates and Apache 2.0 and PHP and MySQL, and everything.. or if you just want to learn how to set it up.. use whatever you want... Fedora, SuSE, Debian, Slackware... the choice is yours... If you do a Red Hat install and select all the stuff from the installation process (Apache, PHP, MySQL) it will install it all together for you, so you wont have to add the PHP modules to your httpd.conf file.

after you get it installed, go into you main www directory... generally /var/www and create a file something like "phptest.php" and include the following:
and then view that folder through apache... "http://localhost/phptest.php" and you should get a huge listing of how PHP is configured for your system. Look for a section on "MySQL" if it's there, than you have Apache, PHP, and MySQL all installed and working together... the next step is to set up your site... and get yourself a snazzy message board like this...or for a free one.. go to

Good luck
Old 11-30-2004, 06:20 PM   #5
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vist this site for starters

and is this the sort of setup you want ( check diagram ) ??

plenty of how-tos at

live long and prosper
Old 12-01-2004, 07:19 AM   #6
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Originally posted by floppywhopper

and is this the sort of setup you want ( check diagram ) ??
Thanks for your reactions,
I want it almost like the one named GREEN. I shall try to give a good view of how I want it:
ADSL modem -> Router/hub (one machine) ->PC

But I'll check your links and try to make a server in the vacation. If I don't know something at that moment I'll aks again. Thank for now


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