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Old 04-30-2004, 07:58 AM   #1
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Again, same problem as before.. this is "so simple" that it should be obvious, unless you have been using windows and dos and then it's just insanely counterintuitive.

Ok, what I've done so far.

1) Edited my XF86Config file and added an extra Device section where I basically copied the previous (see I have a radeon which has 2 monitor ports on it that I'm trying to use with dual monitors in a xinerama display.. i guess that's what it's called anyway.. all these names).

Anyway, I managed somehow to screw up that file. I did have a backup but I wanted to try some trial and error to fix the problem instead, but then I realized.. I have no idea how to actually use anything in console. I'm using emacs as text editor (also tried latex which is even worse).. and .. um.. I can't even access the menu. Unlike the normal dos editors I've been use to that you use the later or control keys with.. it doesn't seem to respond as I would expect..
Anyone know how I can access the menu options?

Also, I went ahead and tried to use man emacs to read the manual, of course it's not going to give anything as basic as using the menu (or at least not that I could find).. lol.. but I gave that a try, and then.. realized I had no idea how to exit the manual. I hit every button about on my keyboard to no avail.. I just had to hit control alt delete to reboot.. there was nothing I could do to get the program to exit, it just said ESC a few times when I hit escape at the bottom, I tried hitting return after, etc..

So this is just beginning to annoy me after being an idiot and staying up trying to get this stuff to work. You know.. this is not intended to be an insult to linux users so just ignore the following if you like.. but why is it so difficult to just set up a basic extended desktop? I realize yes that this way probably provides more options, and all that is just dandy.. but couldn't there be some utility (maybe there is.. there is lots of software for linux after all).. that would make the whole thing easier.. to me it seems like something that should be simple. I'd describe the windows process but honestly that would be assuming everyone here is a moron.. it really is that easy to get it to work in windows.. it's a matter of clicking one checkbox and ok.. and then if they are in the wrong order you simply switch them.. *sigh*.. this is the type of thing I tried to post about in the other thread There are some things, many things that are really more difficult than they should be.. but heh.. that's just the opinion of a lowly windows user.

(again.. I've been up all night so read the above as total frustration and being tired to go along with it).
Old 04-30-2004, 08:29 AM   #2
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Well, I can't really help you on your XF86Config problem, but I do have a few tips:

1) To exit from man pages, just hit 'q'.
2) If all else fails, CTRL+C is your friend. CTRL+C will close *most* terminal programs.
3) Emacs doesn't really have a menu per se, you have to hit a combination of CTRL+(whatever) key combinations. For example:

Save: CTRL+X then CTRL+S
Quit: CTRL+X then CTRL+C

I haven't used emacs in a while, so I don't know any more combinations than that.


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