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Old 08-03-2020, 01:34 PM   #16
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If you are running enough VB's to max out your cores get a Ryzen for sure.

Love the rivalry. I worked for Intel making CPUs a for a while. I preferred AMD then because they benched so much better. I recently converted back to Intel because I game and Stream. To get a CPU capable of Playing at a decent frame rate, and able to rip the stream and broadcast it would require more money than 2 budget Intel PC's. Ryzen or Intel.

I don't see the advantage to a 16 core CPU when "just" Gaming. If CPU A is not maxed out in a game, CPU B isn't pushing the FR any higher either.
 
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Old 08-03-2020, 01:54 PM   #17
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... I hate to say it but they are losing the fab wars. 7 nm is a few years away for Intel and you can get 7 nm now with AMD.
Is AMD manufacturing their chips nowadays? I thought they'd farmed that out. At least one high-level head has rolled at Intel as a result of the delay in the 7nm rollout.

AMD picked up a bunch of Alpha chip designers when cHomPaq deep-sixed that architecture and their experience has been showing up in their chips ever since. I finally dipped a toe into the AMD waters a couple of years ago and would do it again.
 
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Old 08-03-2020, 04:39 PM   #18
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Is AMD manufacturing their chips nowadays? I thought they'd farmed that out. At least one high-level head has rolled at Intel as a result of the delay in the 7nm rollout.
AMD has TSMC as their manufacturing partner. TSMC will be producing Zen-based AMD chips on 5 nm in 2022 and TSMC is already working on the design of their future 2 nm production node.

Now it is rumored that Intel will actually get TSMC to produce some of their 7 nm chips. Of course this will come at a cost and the bill TSMC will present to Intel will be significant.

Now I don't know what this will all mean for Intel. Will Intel become a second ARM only developing CPU designs? And what will this all mean for the rest of the chip industry if there is only TSMC to manufacture CPU's on 2 nm?

Anyway I have stock in ASML that is supplying both TSMC and Intel with their production hardware so either way I have it covered
 
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:44 AM   #19
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Is AMD manufacturing their chips nowadays? I thought they'd farmed that out. At least one high-level head has rolled at Intel as a result of the delay in the 7nm rollout.

AMD picked up a bunch of Alpha chip designers when cHomPaq deep-sixed that architecture and their experience has been showing up in their chips ever since. I finally dipped a toe into the AMD waters a couple of years ago and would do it again.
AMD did farm it out but they are releasing 7nm cpus now and are going to move to 5nm in the future. I'm waiting for 5nm at least before getting a new PC unless quantum tunneling becomes a problem. I was hoping Intel would provide some competition.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:55 AM   #20
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Are the factories producing the smaller technologies 200mm or 300mm factories?

Maybe that decision (to move from 200 to 300mm) bit them in the ass?
 
Old 08-14-2020, 12:24 PM   #21
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Are the factories producing the smaller technologies 200mm or 300mm factories?

Maybe that decision (to move from 200 to 300mm) bit them in the ass?
Which factories? I believe (not 100% of this, but reasonably sure) all the modern lithographies 14nm and under use 300mm wafers, some of the older lithographies that are still in limited use still use 200mm wafers (and some smaller manufacturers that don't have any extremely modern lithographies), but everything current (read 14nm and smaller) for Intel & TSMC (and GloFo even though they're nowhere near as current) are 300mm.
 
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