I've had it with Windows, I want to try Linux, can my computer handle it? Can I?
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I've had it with Windows, I want to try Linux, can my computer handle it? Can I?
So I have zero experience with linux.
I have zero experience with installing new operating systems in general (except for a few reformats)
I have a second computer running Windows XP. It was a networked computer for a local business that someone game me.
The problem is it's so dang freakin slow!
I've tried everything I know, and it doesn't help.
I'm at the point I just want to start over. Except that there was no reformat CD with my freebie computer!
So I'm left with two options, pirate windows or learn linux. I don't feel the need to go through the hassel of pirating something I hate, so Hello Linux!
I don't need anything heavy. I don't need a gaming computer or something running a bunch of 'office'-type programs.
It's a secondary computer. I just want to be able to surf the net quickly, run flash movies like youtube, just everyday web stuff. I could probably also use some kind of program capable of viewing Word documents, but thats not a biggie.
The computer is pretty dated though...
It has...
- An intel celeron processor around 500mHz
- around a 30gig harddrive
- I think 256mb ram (yeah I know, it sucks)
*I'm not really looking to sink money into this thing. So I won't be out buying more RAM, etc.
But I don't need the most up to date version of the desktop software. If there is something out there a few years old that runs in my specs then that's fine with me.
So what do you think?
Where should I start?
What's good for my situation?
Have you considered buying a new motherboard (under $100, possibly including newer, faster CPU), compatible memory ($50-$60/GB), throwing in your existing 30GB HD, power supply and CD, and just building yourself a new (adequate) system?
I think for the specs of that PC it would be great to run something like Slackware with Fluxbox but I wouldn't advise throwing yourself in the deep end really, although it would run great.
You could try Ubuntu but Gnome/KDE are quite a heavy load for those specs...
If you have the time to learn a little (and persevere!) then I would highly recommend a minimal install of something like arch, gentoo or slackware with blackbox/fluxbox as the window manager and you will love it!
I haven't used Ubuntu for a while, but I've installed it on my mum's laptop which is fairly slow, although not as a slow as the machine you're using. Try here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5554
That might help - just keep the install options as minimal as possible. To be honest though - anything graphical is going to run slow on that machine I think
Fluxbox is just a window manager like Gnome/KDE/etc. It's an interface but it does require a little setting up to begin with. A kid could use it as long as you've shown them how to open firefox etc.
It's really lightweight; it runs smooth as butter on my other computer which happens to have the same amount of RAM as yours (256 MiB). That machine has a faster processor (2.8 GHz), but even with a 500 MHz CPU it should still be reasonably fast (or at least comfortable; I've never used a machine that old, so I can't say for sure ).
It's said to be really good at detecting network hardware, so you should be able to get online fairly easily (it comes with a small GUI config program to help you set it up). AFAIK it has Flash Player installed by default as well.
I have a 700MHz P-III with 320MB of RAM. I have yet to find a version of Linux that will not run on it.
Your machine is not that much different. You could, for example, install Arch and then try 2 lightweight Desktops-- LXDE and XFCE. Arch will take a bit more effort than Ubuntu, but I have the sense that you are a quick learner.
Other good options include all of the distros that use a lightweight Desktop or Window Manager out of the box---eg Xubuntu, Lubuntu, some versions of Mint, Zenwalk, and many more. Check out http://distrowatch.com for all the details.
So what's the deal with fluxbox, blackbox, openbox, etc?
Does it load like windows?
No, not at all - no resemblance. Specially the speed; from
login screen to working desktop in under a second.
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Originally Posted by Parallaxis
Could a kid use it effectively?
Absolutely; after a brief explanation ("whenever you right-click
on an empty patch of desktop a menu will pop up") and a 1-minute
guided tour of the menu my 6 year old nephew was happy as Larry,
starting a variety of games and the browser w/o further supervision.
Fluxbox is just a window manager like Gnome/KDE/etc.
This may come across as a quibble, but---using the common definitions--Gnome and KDE are "desktop environments", which is more that just a "Window Manager". The differences might be subtle, but they are real.
Desktop environments include: Gnome, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE
Window managers include all the *boxes, Window Maker, Rat Poison, Ice WM, and some others I can't remember.
By the way, what kind of "kid" are we talking about? My son was 14 when we got our first Apple-II. Within 2 weeks, he was programming it to play music......in machine language.
This may come across as a quibble, but---using the common definitions--Gnome and KDE are "desktop environments", which is more that just a "Window Manager". The differences might be subtle, but they are real.
Desktop environments include: Gnome, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE
Window managers include all the *boxes, Window Maker, Rat Poison, Ice WM, and some others I can't remember.
No need to be pedantic I understand the differences, I just wanted to make it simple for the guy.
Your son sounds like a super hero by the way. haha :P
It's really lightweight; it runs smooth as butter on my other computer which happens to have the same amount of RAM as yours (256 MiB). That machine has a faster processor (2.8 GHz), but even with a 500 MHz CPU it should still be reasonably fast (or at least comfortable; I've never used a machine that old, so I can't say for sure ).
It's said to be really good at detecting network hardware, so you should be able to get online fairly easily (it comes with a small GUI config program to help you set it up). AFAIK it has Flash Player installed by default as well.
Maybe...
Like I said, I'm all new to this.
If a kid (10 to 14 year old range) can boot it up, point and click to the internet, play youtube/check mail and the whole thing is STABLE then it should suit my needs.
The only question is what do I have to do?
I don't know if I want to completely have to micromanage an operating system, or called into a room every 5mins because this or that isn't work, etc.
Do I have to install Linux, then an OS? or is it all one package?
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