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01-26-2005, 09:25 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jan 2005
Distribution: debian
Posts: 26
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How do I get around in Linux?
Hello all,
I recently installed Debian on my laptop. I can get into the black logon screen and I logon. I cant do anything except type help. Even then the screen doesn't stop for me and I can't read how to make it stop so I can read everything. I thought that Linux was more user friendly. Can't there be some desktop/windows and all that stuff? is it restricted to just something that looks like dos? Someone please help. I hate windows but nothing in linux seems newbie enough for me.
thanks
ip
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01-26-2005, 09:29 AM
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Member
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Missouri, USA
Distribution: Slackware 12.2, Xubuntu 9.10
Posts: 371
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Once you login, try "startx" - that SHOULD get you to a GUI, if everything's installed right
(I'm running Slackware, so I can't really speak to WHAT GUI you may see with Debian, but I imagine it would be KDE or possibly Gnome)
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01-26-2005, 09:34 AM
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Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 120
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Linux IS user-friendly! You just didn't pick the right distribution; Try installing SUSE, Mandrake or Fedora Core. Debian requires some fluency in linuxese.
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01-26-2005, 09:58 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jan 2005
Distribution: debian
Posts: 26
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Thanks all,
Lixy, which of those 3 distributions are best?
Oh, startx didn't work for me. It says it wasn't configured correctly, which I believe, but when I try to do its autoreconfiguration then I can't get anywhere.
I figured I was missing something since I had heard and read so much good about linux.
ip
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01-26-2005, 10:10 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: So. Cal.
Distribution: Slack 11
Posts: 1,737
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If your typing help from the console use this " | less " at the end of help,
Example:
help | less
that will make the page stop so you can read it and you can manuever up and down the page with the arrow keys. If less does not work use " | more "
You can use either one for almost any text so it stops the page.
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01-26-2005, 10:13 AM
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Member
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: MD
Distribution: Fedora Core
Posts: 269
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Fedora is prob going to be the easiest one to install, the GUI will be configured for you after installation. The newst Fedora Core is 3, get that one if you are going to try it.
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01-26-2005, 10:19 AM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Omaha, NE, USA
Distribution: PCLinuxOS 2007
Posts: 808
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Fedora/Mandrake/Suse/Debian -- all those are pretty easy to install. My guess is you just missed a step during the intial installation/setup, where you configure the display. I know both Mandrake and Fedora *should* leave you with a functioning X-desktop environment after you are done installing.
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01-26-2005, 10:23 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jan 2005
Distribution: debian
Posts: 26
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you guys are great!!
Thanks, I will try fedora. I can't wait to get out of windows
ip
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01-26-2005, 10:25 AM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Omaha, NE, USA
Distribution: PCLinuxOS 2007
Posts: 808
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And the most important thing is to try a few different distros to find which one works best for you. If that's Fedora, Great! If it's Mandrake, equally Great! If it ends up being Slackware, or Gentoo, or Linux From Scratch, or whatever, equally Great! 
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01-26-2005, 10:35 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jan 2005
Distribution: debian
Posts: 26
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any suggestions on how to fix my gui with debian? this way I can compare debian and fedora
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01-26-2005, 10:42 AM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Omaha, NE, USA
Distribution: PCLinuxOS 2007
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I don't know Debian, but there should be some program named "xfconfig", or something similar, that will allow you to configure your display from the command line. You will probably need to know what graphics card you have, and you monitor capabilities (e.g. supported refresh rates, resolutions, etc.).
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01-26-2005, 10:53 AM
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Member
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: KY
Distribution: Debian, Mint, Puppy
Posts: 507
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I'd definitely recommend Fedora...been using it since about last May and I just love it. Fedora will be much easier I'm sure. I would not really say Linux is more user friendly than Windows, but if you start with a relatively easy distro (Fedora, Mandrake, etc) then it won't be such a bad step.
Just remember one thing: this is a whole other operating system. So take a good chunk of what you know about MS and throw it out the window as it won't be relative to helping you learn.
Best wishes to you...it really is a trip!
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01-26-2005, 12:44 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jan 2005
Distribution: Core / Mandrake 10.0 & 8.2 / Redhat 6.0, 7.3 & 9.0
Posts: 4
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Getting around Linux
 Good post. I've gotta' give the thumbs up to Mandrake 10.
Go to:
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake...d-CD1.i586.iso
to download.
The hardware auto detect that comes with this RPMS makes it much easier to get your video configured correctly so KDE runs smoothly. Ultimately, though, I would recommend learning some basic command line as an adjunct to your graphic interface. I like "Linux in a Nutshell" from O'rielly Press.
Hope this helps.
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01-26-2005, 01:22 PM
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Registered: May 2004
Posts: 245
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first off did you install an xserver?? as in x-window-system if not
thats why you dont have a gui...if you did install x..try #xf86config answer the questions and you on the way..
if you need to install x...try#apt-get install x-window-system-core
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01-26-2005, 01:37 PM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Between the chair and the desk
Distribution: Debian Sarge, kernel 2.6.13
Posts: 666
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wrat is somewhat right. I just went today through the Debian reinstall procedure and I faced the almost same problem. After installing (via ftp), I had the xfree86 but I didn't get a window manager so I was left "face-to-face" with the good old command line. To see if you have a window manager and to make sure it's properly configured, run "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" (for KDM, obviously). If it lets you choose between xdm and kdm but nothing happens afterwards, you might not have any desktop environment installed. Therefore: "apt-get install kde".
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