Fast browser for a slow machine

jt1122 · 06-16-2023, 11:45 AM

Does this modification also apply to netsurf?.

teckk · 06-16-2023, 11:47 AM

I particularly like to use a mobile UA, with something like youtube. I like the light simple layout.
https://0x0.st/HTNi.png

wpeckham · 06-16-2023, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jt1122

Hi,

I'd appreciate suggestions for a graphical web browser with javascript support (so it could render sites decently) but it should lean and suitable for a low-end machine.

Thanks

The best web sites use current HTML and CSS, with no javascript other than server side. I understand why you want javascript support, because most of the sites on the web are not well behaved, but I routinely turn JS off in my browsers and avoid sites that break that way. Javascript support makes browsers bigger and slower. Javascript on sites makes them load slower and require more client resources.

teckk · 06-16-2023, 12:14 PM

I have javascript, images, background images, animated gif, html videos turned off default. When I look at web pages I see this.
https://0x0.st/HTNb.png

Don't care. Makes the web light and usable. Have the ability to turn each thing on if need be. Such as on an e commerce site that requires it to make a purchase.

I've dome that for so long, that I was surprised to see a youtube add on someone else's machine a while back. Also saves a ton of bandwidth.

wpeckham · 06-17-2023, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teckk

I have javascript, images, background images, animated gif, html videos turned off default. When I look at web pages I see this.
https://0x0.st/HTNb.png

Don't care. Makes the web light and usable. Have the ability to turn each thing on if need be. Such as on an e commerce site that requires it to make a purchase.

I've dome that for so long, that I was surprised to see a youtube add on someone else's machine a while back. Also saves a ton of bandwidth.

For fast viewing I might use something like DILLO. It does not handle everything in the CSS standard properly, but then nothing does.

jt1122 · 06-17-2023, 12:32 PM

Thanks

I had a look into D earlier. It supports setting the user-agent from the CL.

teckk · 06-17-2023, 12:55 PM

I have recommended before, to compile dillo with mbedtls.
Standard dillo from the repos wont open LQ, or other sites.
Take it apart and recompile with mbedtls.
https://www.trustedfirmware.org/projects/mbed-tls/
https://0x0.st/HTBI.png

I like little dillo. While you are at it, fix those little scrollbars so that you can actually grab it.

enigma9o7 · 06-17-2023, 01:45 PM

Epiphany (gnome-web/epiphany-browser) is webkit based, with a built in ad-blocker, and doesn't even require SSE2, so works on Pentium III / Athlon XP.

I've tried Pale Moon and used to like it a lot, but seems current versions aren't much lighter than firefox/chromium. It does support legacy ublock-origin tho.

Chromium won't run without SSE3, so won't work on old machines anyway (like my Pentium 4!).

Firefox still works tho as long as you have SSE2.

jefro · 06-19-2023, 03:38 PM

Some sites like you put an M in front. m.somesite.com for example

teckk · 06-19-2023, 05:09 PM

They sure do. Unless you are presenting a mobile user agent, they will usually redirect to the desktop page.

The mobile page
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRtV48XZtk

The desktop page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRtV48XZtk

Code:

agent1="Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 16_2 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) CriOS/113.0.5359.112 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1"

agent2="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/114.0"

url="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRtV48XZtk"

curl -LIA "$agent1" "$url"
HTTP/2 200 
...
report-to: {"group":"youtube_mobile","max_age":2592000,"endpoints":[{"url":"https://csp.withgoogle.com/csp/report-to/youtube_mobile"}]}


curl -LIA "$agent2" "$url"
HTTP/2 200
...
report-to: {"group":"youtube_main","max_age":2592000,"endpoints":[{"url":"https://csp.withgoogle.com/csp/report-to/youtube_main"}]}