Folks you have completely lost me. I am familiar with using command line instructions but where am I running the command line from. Is it from Kubunto when its running or from the Kubunto cd setup screen or the Xubunto cd setup screen. Actually the Ubunto layout looks pretty good as Klong Kas it Kdoesn't Kstart Keveryhing Kwith a 'K'.
I forgot to add when installing Kubunto it has partitioned the drive with 2 partions is this right? From my primary drive Windows doesn,t see either partion as formatted and asks me if I want to format the drive. Also where is the GRUB file stored.

Oh man, I'll try to answer your question as best as i can, but I swear, you made me spit Iced tea everywhere with that line there.. LMAO.. That is one of the things I've always griped about with Kubuntu.

Typically the commands listed above by sumguy, just run them in Terminal. Install Xubuntu first(Xfce). Then log out, and log in to your Xfce interface by clicking sessions, and clicking xfce and logging in. Once your logged in under Xfce, open up a terminal again, and run the remove kde- command posted by sumguy...

That should do the trick..

IGF

To get to the command line, go to K Menu -> System -> Konsole.

I believe that's the default. One is the main/home partition, the other should be 'swap' which is virtual memory. By the way, don't expect Windows to read your Linux partitions - it doesn't recognize ext3, the filesystem Kubuntu uses by default. If you have any extra space, you might want to create a Fat32 partition which both Windows and Kubuntu can read.

The apps in KDE are great, you should give them a try even if you don't like the name. Amarok is the single best media player ever created.

As to where grub is, it is splt into 2 pieces. I think 512 bytes or bits go to the MBR of the drive, which is the very first space on it. The rest of grub (the text menu of available operating systems and such) resides in the /boot directory, along with the kernel informtion.

I'll second amaroK being the best. It has info on all 180 Gb of compressed music that I have. All album art, master playlists, it can sort things by band/album/year of release (if you have id3 tags in). Also tracks how often you play things. Untouchable.

Peace,
JimBass

Sumguy I don't mind Windows not being able to see ext3 but does the linux OS see Windows fat32 files ok. Mainly for transfering files over to the linux setup (doesn't have work the other way round)
JimBass how do I delete the Grub file if I decide (or need to) change my secondary drive. (Linux is on the secondary drive now. XP on the primary drive).
IGF why do you put ice in your Ktea? I have milk and one sugar in mine.

If you have a fat32 partition on your windows drive, then yes, linux can see it. You are aware that windows has not by default created fat32 partitions since windows 98/Me? You can create them under 2000, not sure about XP. But yes, if it is the second partition on your win drive, then you would do something like:

and if it is the 4th partition, then change hda2 to hda4 etc.

To remove grub, you would place the winXP or win2000 install disk in, boot to it, go to repair, and type something like "fdisk /mbr" or something like that to reinstall the windows boot loader. It is documented all over this site, and the internet as well.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d....mspx?mfr=true

Its pretty easy to remove Grub if necessary. Restart your PC with your XP disk in the drive, after it goes through the prompts, choose Repair install and then your windows disk, then type "fixmbr" and enter, and you'll get some warning about damaging your system, click Y to accept and re-write the MBR.

If for some reason you have to do this, it might also be wise to re-write the 1st boot sector. Its done exactly as above, except the command is fixboot.

No K's....

IGF

I have downloaded Xubuntu again from a different mirror. I remember seeing something about hash code checking, but I can't remember where it was and using search doesn't come up with anything. I have found an MD5V zip file and downloaded it but where do I find hash codes.

Here's my best, most-considered advice ...

If you're interested in Linux, then by all means, embrace it! But you don't have to (and you probably shouldn't) embrace it "at the exclusion of" Windows.

If you're actively using a program that runs best on Windows, by all means, have Windows available to run that program! (It's cheap enough...) Meanwhile, either on the same computer or on another one that you've got handy (or, get one), experiment with Linux.

It's very handy to be able to (inadvertantly) detonate a small explosive under your Linux box ("oops...") and to swivel your chair around, open up the Windows laptop, and surf to the web site that will give you the info you need to resuscitate the ever-patient, long-suffering Linux box.

In other words, you can have your cake and eat it too, and it's usually better that way. The two systems are not mutually exclusive.

As you proceed through the sometimes-bewildering (especially at the beginning) learning-curve of Linux, don't toss out the baby with the bathwater. There's just no good reason to do that.

I tried Alt Ctrl F2 and typed in apt-get install xfce. I got the following message that might well be written in hyrogliphics.

E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permissions denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
What in the name of everything edible is that all about????

^You have to have root permissions to install things. In Kubuntu, you do this by typing
When you see the Password: prompt, type your password.
Note that you probably want the xubuntu-desktop package and not just xfce.

At the moment this is a bit like swimming in treacle. OK so I typed in sudo apt-get install xubunto-desktop

Reply was
Reading package lists...Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information...Done
E: Couldn't find package xubunto-desktop
Also could you please tell me how do I get out of the DOS screen back to the GUI. I tried typing EXIT but it doesn't understand DOS syntax for some reason.

I wonder if that is because it is not DOS???
We are talking about Linux, which is a cousin of Unix. DOS was derived from Unix, but there are many differences.

I have not followed all of this, but why are you not using the GUI package manager?

Getting back to the GUI depends on how you got to the terminal. Assuming that you did ctrl-alt-F2 from a GUI, then you can get back with ctrl-alt-F7 (or possibly F8 or F9). Other methods include "startx", "init 5", and good old-fashioned "reboot"

Pixellany ctrl-alt-F7 worked. I tried running the Adept Manager but I can't see where you type the commands in!!

I missed something:

You need xubuntu, not xubunto