debian does not open up all websites

lemon09 · 02-07-2014, 10:10 AM

Well, this is a similar problem which I had few years back. There are some websites which does not seem to open.

Code:

http://www.freshersworld.com/
http://ssconline.nic.in/

are some of them. Initially I thought it was again that tcp window scaling problem. So I followed the steps mentioned in the previously discussed topic

Code:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/website-won%27t-load-on-linux-704467/#post3446978

Last time the problem was resolved using the steps mentioned in that post. But this time the problem seems to persist. I still can't open up the pages.

Is there any solution to the problem???
How do I troubleshoot this???

sgosnell · 02-07-2014, 10:24 AM

It would seem to be a browser problem. Debian does not open web pages, your browser does. What browser are you using? Have you tried changing the browser settings? Both websites open for me, although the second one does give a warning that Netscape is not supported, and you should use IE or Opera. That said, I can still use the links there.

Soadyheid · 02-07-2014, 10:25 AM

Debian is a Linux Distribution, it doesn't open URLs. What Browser are you using? Firefox, Chrome, Mozilla, Konqueror?

Do you get the same response from different browsers?

Maybe I've misunderstood your problem.

Play Bonny!

Isaac Velando · 02-07-2014, 10:25 AM

While this isn't exactly my area of expertise and I may be quite off target, I'm curious as to whether it's a DNS issue; can you try navigating your browser directly to their IP addresses? I believe they are:

http://www.freshersworld.com/ -> http://54.209.13.212/
http://ssconline.nic.in/ -> http://164.100.72.40/

In the event this is successful you could change your DNS servers to something like Google's public DNS servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

jdkaye · 02-07-2014, 12:23 PM

I'm using Debian and here are my results of opening your problem websites.
I am using Iceweasel v. 24.2
http://www.freshersworld.com/ opens correctly with no problems.
http://ssconline.nic.in/ Will not openDoes not support any browser except IE or Opera.
I tried http://ssconline.nic.in/ using Opera v. 12.16 and it opened with no problems.
As suggested above this has nothing to do with Debian and everything to do with garbage websites limiting the browsers they support.
jdk

frankbell · 02-07-2014, 09:06 PM

Both websites open just fine Opera 12.10 on Debian Sid. My results in Iceweasel 24.2.0 were similar to jdkaye's, except that I was able to navigate http://ssconline.nic.in/, but, every time I opened a page, I got the "use IE or Opera" warning.

lemon09 · 02-08-2014, 07:12 AM

Well, I use firefox nightly edition. However I tried using google chrome and iceweasel. All report the same problem. I'll try changing the dns and post the output.
Thanks to all.

lemon09 · 02-08-2014, 07:29 AM

Well, the dns does not seem to create any problems. As stated by Issac Velando I tried providing the ip address instead. Its the same problem again. I tried pinging to the destination.

Code:

lobkush@Debian:~$ ping -c 5 www.freshersworld.com
PING freshersworld.com (54.209.13.212) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- freshersworld.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4032ms

I, however tried changing the dns and its still stuck in the same issue. What can I do next???

Please help!!!

jdkaye · 02-08-2014, 09:40 AM

Very strange. I pinged www.fresherworld.com and got a different ip number.

Code:

~$ ping www.fresherworld.com
PING www.fresherworld.com (95.211.117.206) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from hosted-by.leaseweb.com (95.211.117.206): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=23.8 ms
64 bytes from hosted-by.leaseweb.com (95.211.117.206): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=24.0 ms

jdk

sgosnell · 02-08-2014, 10:26 AM

I also get 95.211.117.206, and can successfully ping. However when I go to www.freshersworld.com in a browser, I get a placeholder site. It appears that this domain name is not in use by an active site. I don't think this is what I got earlier, but I can't recall exactly. Pinging the IP address you provided does not work, so 54.209.13.212 is not correct. I can't ping that one either. The ssconline.nic.in website does work, though. It's sadly outdated, requiring IE or Netscape, which hasn't existed in many years, but it does display.

DavidMcCann · 02-08-2014, 11:25 AM

Both display perfectly in my Opera (version 12).

lemon09 · 02-08-2014, 12:47 PM

To both of you -- jdkaye and sgosnell... The name of the site is

Code:

www.freshersworld.com

and not

Code:

www.fresherworld.com

The later one is a placeholder one.

Drakeo · 02-08-2014, 01:06 PM

I ran into this the other day while checking out the latest knoppix in VM it was weird one browser that would do them all was chromium .
and not icewiesel that comes with it. so I pulled the latest live Debian; believe Debian 7 and ran that in VM and the same thing except no chromium.
so I did a complete install to one of my partitions same problem.
Not sure why. I played with the settings. I am sure there is a simple explanation

but what I notices was if it was a http://www it worked fine but if it was just http://blah/blah it didn't.
so that tells me where to look in the settings. but hey I don't have time for that. This is the Distro maintainers job do handle default stuff.

That is only my opinion. And the difference between a well thought out release.

Shadow_7 · 02-08-2014, 01:34 PM

The first thought is DNS. Using googles 8.8.8.8 or other not from your ISP options seems better in my experience.

I've had past issues with MTU size and some sites. I'm not sure why, but dropping down to 576 instead of the default 1500 makes some sites play better. Perhaps it's a latency issue, or just a poorly configured web server on the far end. And sometimes the inverse holds true, only works at 1500 MTU, and not at 576. Even though an MTU of 1492 might be optimal for your ISP for "most" things on an average broadband style connection.

On another note, some youtube videos play fine in chromium and not at all in iceweasel (firefox). While most videos seem okay. I don't know why it just is. The first six hours after a my drunk kitchen video hits the site, chromium plays the youtube video fine, firefox doesn't. But sometime after that period, it plays fine in firefox too.

Of course make sure that you're up to date on things. Adobe's flash player has a recent update 1/29/2014. Oracles java is up to version 7u51 around 1/14/2014. And other quirks like lots of openjdk updates which might overwrite your oracle install methods regularly for debian sid.

frankbell · 02-08-2014, 09:03 PM

Have you tried clearing your browser cache?