this the out put of ps -A
craig]# ps -A
PID TTY TIME CMD
1 ? 00:00:00 init
2 ? 00:00:00 kthreadd
3 ? 00:00:00 migration/0
4 ? 00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0
5 ? 00:00:00 watchdog/0
6 ? 00:00:00 events/0
7 ? 00:00:00 khelper
59 ? 00:00:00 kblockd/0
62 ? 00:00:00 kacpid
63 ? 00:00:00 kacpi_notify
135 ? 00:00:00 cqueue/0
137 ? 00:00:00 ksuspend_usbd
142 ? 00:00:00 khubd
145 ? 00:00:00 kseriod
179 ? 00:00:00 pdflush
180 ? 00:00:00 pdflush
181 ? 00:00:00 kswapd0
225 ? 00:00:00 aio/0
360 ? 00:00:00 pccardd
374 ? 00:00:00 kpsmoused
412 ? 00:00:00 ata/0
413 ? 00:00:00 ata_aux
416 ? 00:00:00 scsi_eh_0
417 ? 00:00:00 scsi_eh_1
430 ? 00:00:00 ksnapd
438 ? 00:00:00 kjournald
470 ? 00:00:00 kauditd
502 ? 00:00:00 udevd
1116 ? 00:00:00 b43legacy
1240 ? 00:00:00 kmpathd/0
1316 ? 00:00:00 kjournald
1406 ? 00:00:00 cpuspeed
1793 ? 00:00:00 restorecond
1812 ? 00:00:00 rpcbind
1831 ? 00:00:00 rpc.statd
1859 ? 00:00:00 rpciod/0
1867 ? 00:00:00 rpc.idmapd
1923 ? 00:00:00 pcscd
1933 ? 00:00:00 rsyslogd
1937 ? 00:00:00 rklogd
1951 ? 00:00:00 auditd
1953 ? 00:00:00 audispd
1967 ? 00:00:00 dbus-daemon
1979 ? 00:00:00 setroubleshootd
1992 ? 00:00:00 automount
2010 ? 00:00:00 wpa_supplicant
2020 ? 00:00:00 acpid
2031 ? 00:00:00 sshd
2041 ? 00:00:00 xinetd
2073 ? 00:00:00 sendmail
2082 ? 00:00:00 sendmail
2093 ? 00:00:00 nasd
2102 ? 00:00:00 console-kit-dae
2172 ? 00:00:00 crond
2189 ? 00:00:00 nmbd
2198 ? 00:00:00 smbd
2206 ? 00:00:00 atd
2213 ? 00:00:00 smbd
2217 ? 00:00:00 avahi-daemon
2218 ? 00:00:00 avahi-daemon
2235 ? 00:00:00 cupsd
2245 ? 00:00:00 hald
2246 ? 00:00:00 hald-runner
2266 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-inpu
2273 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-cpuf
2274 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi
2302 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-stor
2312 ? 00:00:00 NetworkManager
2316 ? 00:00:00 yum-updatesd
2322 ? 00:00:00 NetworkManagerD
2338 ? 00:00:00 gam_server
2352 tty1 00:00:00 mingetty
2353 tty2 00:00:00 mingetty
2354 tty3 00:00:00 mingetty
2355 tty4 00:00:00 mingetty
2356 tty5 00:00:00 mingetty
2357 tty6 00:00:00 mingetty
2358 ? 00:00:00 gdm-binary
2424 ? 00:00:00 gdm-binary
2428 ? 00:00:00 gdm-binary
2429 tty7 00:00:12 X
2464 ? 00:00:00 gnome-keyring-d
2466 ? 00:00:00 gnome-session
2513 ? 00:00:00 ssh-agent
2516 ? 00:00:00 dbus-launch
2517 ? 00:00:00 dbus-daemon
2524 ? 00:00:01 gconfd-2
2526 ? 00:00:00 at-spi-registry
2529 ? 00:00:00 bonobo-activati
2534 ? 00:00:01 gnome-settings-
2538 ? 00:00:00 pulseaudio
2543 ? 00:00:00 gconf-helper
2544 ? 00:00:01 compiz
2546 ? 00:00:01 gnome-panel
2547 ? 00:00:01 nautilus
2550 ? 00:00:00 gtk-window-deco
2552 ? 00:00:00 gnome-volume-ma
2557 ? 00:00:00 gnome-vfs-daemo
2563 ? 00:00:00 nm-applet
2564 ? 00:00:00 python
2566 ? 00:00:00 puplet
2567 ? 00:00:00 pam-panel-icon
2569 ? 00:00:00 pam_timestamp_c
2570 ? 00:00:00 gnome-power-man
2579 ? 00:00:00 mapping-daemon
2584 ? 00:00:00 wnck-applet
2587 ? 00:00:00 trashapplet
2590 ? 00:00:00 battstat-applet
2594 ? 00:00:00 gnome-brightnes
2613 ? 00:00:00 gnome-screensav
2617 ? 00:00:00 dhclient
2649 ? 00:00:00 gam_server
2658 ? 00:00:01 tomboy
2661 ? 00:00:00 notification-ar
2664 ? 00:00:00 fast-user-switc
2667 ? 00:00:00 clock-applet
2670 ? 00:00:00 mixer_applet2
2769 ? 00:00:00 firefox
2785 ? 00:00:00 run-mozilla.sh
2790 ? 00:00:09 firefox-bin
2894 ? 00:00:00 gnome-terminal
2896 ? 00:00:00 gnome-pty-helpe
2897 pts/1 00:00:00 bash
2918 pts/1 00:00:00 su
2924 pts/1 00:00:00 bash
2942 pts/1 00:00:00 ps
this that right?

Well, from your ps -A output, wpa_supplicant has started, but from what you posted about the wpa_supplicant startup, it may not be working. Just out of curiosity, did you look at the iwconfig output after starting wpa_supplicant?

There are a couple of other things to try to see if we can narrow down what is going wrong:

1) Temporarily turn off wireless encryption and see if you can connect. The takes wpa_supplicant out of the equation and determines if the driver is working properly or not.

2)If SSID broadcast is not turned on on your router, do so. Sometimes that makes all the difference.

3) By any chance, do you have SELinux enabled? I know it comes standard on Fedora, and it tends to cause a HUGE amount of trouble with wireless.




As a side note, when you are looking for one thing in a lot of output, the grep command can be useful. So if you ran ps -A | grep wpa instead of just plain ps -A, you would only see any entries containing "wpa" in them.

ssid is turned on using mac what ever that means?
selinux turned of thru admin, services when I setup Samba makes problems.
at a friends network no encryption would not connect.
connected to wep once a couple weeks back, connected to my wpa once last week to slow timed out nothing loaded, can not get to connect again since.

That may be a problem if the router is restricting access using MAC addresses. All network cards have a MAC (or hardware) address that identifies them uniquely, and most routers have the capability to only allow specific MAC addresses onto the network. Usually this feature is off by default, but if someone has turned on this feature, then either you need to turn it off, or you need to make sure that the MAC address for your wireless card is in the list of approved MAC addresses.

Good, that is one less thing to worry about.

This is very disturbing as it suggests that the driver isn't working properly. I think we need to look at a couple of things here. First, post the output of the lsmod command. I want to make sure that the driver is loading. With Fedora 8, you should see either b43 or b43legacy. Second, you need to do some looking in your log files and see if the drivers are complaining about anything. The relevant files are /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog and the output of the dmesg command. Don't post the log files as they are likely to be large, but if you do see anything from the driver, do post that.

Finally, as root run iwlist wlan0 scan and see if your network is visible to the scan. Or if you see any networks at all.

[root@localhost ~]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
autofs4 20293 2
fuse 41301 1
sunrpc 149213 3
nf_conntrack_ipv4 11589 9
ipt_REJECT 7361 2
iptable_filter 6337 1
ip_tables 14085 1 iptable_filter
nf_conntrack_netbios_ns 6337 0
nf_conntrack_ipv6 16329 9
xt_state 5953 18
nf_conntrack 51713 4 nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_conntrack_ipv6,xt_state
xt_tcpudp 6849 22
ip6t_ipv6header 6081 2
ip6t_REJECT 8001 2
ip6table_filter 6209 1
ip6_tables 14981 2 ip6t_ipv6header,ip6table_filter
x_tables 14149 7 ipt_REJECT,ip_tables,xt_state,xt_tcpudp,ip6t_ipv6header,ip6t_REJECT,ip6_tables
loop 16197 0
dm_multipath 18505 0
radeon 117345 2
drm 66901 3 radeon
ipv6 228357 16 nf_conntrack_ipv6,ip6t_REJECT
arc4 5825 2
ecb 6593 2
blkcipher 9285 1 ecb
b43legacy 93017 0
rfkill 9301 1 b43legacy
mac80211 191541 1 b43legacy
cfg80211 26697 1 mac80211
input_polldev 7241 1 b43legacy
parport_pc 26725 0
parport 32393 1 parport_pc
snd_ali5451 21581 4
snd_ac97_codec 93413 1 snd_ali5451
ac97_bus 5825 1 snd_ac97_codec
i2c_ali1535 9925 0
floppy 52741 0
i2c_ali15x3 10437 0
pcspkr 6465 0
i2c_core 21057 2 i2c_ali1535,i2c_ali15x3
firewire_ohci 21573 0
natsemi 28193 0
firewire_core 36809 1 firewire_ohci
snd_seq_dummy 6725 0
crc_itu_t 5953 1 firewire_core
ssb 34757 1 b43legacy
snd_seq_oss 31553 0
snd_seq_midi_event 9665 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 48945 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 10317 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 44353 0
snd_mixer_oss 17217 2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 70981 3 snd_ali5451,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
video 19921 0
output 6721 1 video
battery 12997 0
snd_timer 21317 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 48325 16 snd_ali5451,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_os s,snd_pcm,snd_timer
ac 8005 0
alim1535_wdt 8405 0
soundcore 9505 2 snd
button 10321 0
snd_page_alloc 11593 1 snd_pcm
joydev 12545 0
sg 32209 0
sr_mod 17381 0
cdrom 33761 1 sr_mod
dm_snapshot 17765 0
dm_zero 5697 0
dm_mirror 21441 0
dm_mod 48773 9 dm_multipath,dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror
pata_acpi 8641 0
ata_generic 8773 0
pata_ali 11585 2
libata 128561 3 pata_acpi,ata_generic,pata_ali
sd_mod 26689 3
scsi_mod 123341 4 sg,sr_mod,libata,sd_mod
ext3 111945 2
jbd 40533 1 ext3
mbcache 10049 1 ext3
uhci_hcd 23633 0
ohci_hcd 22725 0
ehci_hcd 32333 0

iwlist wlan0 scan
wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down

var/log/messsages
Apr 14 16:56:18 localhost nmbd[2187]: This response was from IP 192.168.11.7, reporting an IP address of 192.168.11.7.
Apr 14 17:08:25 localhost kernel: input: b43legacy-phy0 as /class/input/input8
Apr 14 17:08:26 localhost kernel: b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27)
Apr 14 17:08:26 localhost kernel: Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio
Apr 14 17:08:26 localhost kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready

Apr 14 21:33:08 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) successful, device activated.
Apr 14 21:33:08 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 5 of 5 (IP Configure Commit) complete.
Apr 14 21:33:09 localhost avahi-daemon[2246]: Registering new address record for fe80::20b:cdff:fe79:a623 on eth0.*.
Apr 14 21:52:49 localhost kernel: input: b43legacy-phy0 as /class/input/input8
Apr 14 21:52:50 localhost kernel: b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27)
Apr 14 21:52:50 localhost kernel: Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio
Apr 14 21:52:50 localhost kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
Apr 14 22:34:50 localhost kernel: b43legacy-phy0 warning: Unexpected value for chanstat (0x7C00)
Apr 14 22:35:16 localhost kernel: eth0: Autonegotiation advertising 0x5e1 partner 0x00.
Apr 14 22:35:16 localhost kernel: eth0: link down.
Apr 14 22:35:16 localhost NetworkManager: <info> SWITCH: terminating current connection 'Auto Ethernet (eth0)' because it's no longer valid.
Apr 14 22:35:16 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Deactivating device eth0.
Apr 14 22:35:16 localhost NetworkManager: <info> eth0: canceled DHCP transaction, dhclient pid 2643
Apr 14 22:35:16 localhost avahi-daemon[2246]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.11.5 on eth0.
Apr 14 22:35:16 localhost avahi-daemon[2246]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.11.5.
Apr 14 22:35:16 localhost avahi-daemon[2246]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS.
Apr 14 22:35:16 localhost avahi-daemon[2246]: Withdrawing address record for fe80::20b:cdff:fe79:a623 on eth0.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost kernel: eth0: Autonegotiation advertising 0x5e1 partner 0x45e1.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost kernel: eth0: link up.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> SWITCH: no current connection, found better connection 'Auto Ethernet (eth0)'.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activating device eth0
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Beginning DHCP transaction.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.6-Fedora
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: Copyright 2004-2007 Internet Systems Consortium.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: All rights reserved.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient:
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> dhclient started with pid 3269
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost NetworkManager: <info> DHCP: device eth0 state changed normal exit -> preinit
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0b:cd:79:a6:23
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: Sending on LPF/eth0/00:0b:cd:79:a6:23
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: Sending on Socket/fallback
Apr 14 22:36:11 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
there is a lot of stuff like this.

sudo gedit /var/log/syslog
nothing there

dmesg
firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 000bcd009e3426de, S400
b43legacy-phy0: Broadcom 4306 WLAN found
phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'pid'
Broadcom 43xx-legacy driver loaded [ Features: PLRID, Firmware-ID: FW10 ]

OK, I'm stumped. I see a couple of warnings, but nothing that really points to a problem. The only thing I can think to check is lsmod to make sure ndiswrapper isn't loading and goofing things up.

I hate to suggest this, but at this point you might be better off trying a clean install of Fedora, or dropping it altogether and switching to a different distro. Like I said a few posts ago, there have been some serious problems with Fedora 8 and wireless.

question from everything I am reading broadcom seems to be a thorn in the side of fedora or maybe linux as a whole. What about switching to a Atheros card or intel card I understand fedora comes with firmware and drivers for intel cards.

On a different note looking at that info i have read some things about black listing SSB but I don't know if that is only with NDIS Wrapper or period. If that could help how do I do that.

lsmod info above I saw nothing in regards to wrapper

You are right, Broadcom is a pain. But I've gotten my Broadcom 4321 card to work on Slackware with Ndiswrapper, and I think you should be able to get your 4306 card working too (even though you are on Fedora).

Use this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wi...eisty_No-Fluff

That document is fantastic and it will point you to the correct driver and everything. It looks like there are some success stories with the Broadcom 4306 card, so good luck!

EDIT: And I know you said that you wanted to use cutter not NISwrapper, but switching cards just seems a little extreme to me. Just wanted to let you know that it's possible to get it working.

I will try the ndiswrapper what do I have to loose. does anyone have more current commands than these. everyone seems to be giving me an error. I believe this is a little out dated. but thank jester the first few worked fine but configuring and wpa are not cooperating.
sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
ndiswrapper -l
sudo depmod -a
sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.orig
echo -e 'auto lo\niface lo inet loopback\n' | sudo tee /etc/network/interfaces
sudo ndiswrapper -m
echo 'ndiswrapper' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
echo 'ENABLED=0' | sudo tee -a /etc/default/wpasupplicant
again thank you everyone for your help.

Well you cannot copy the commands exactly since they are meant for Ubuntu. For example, Slackware does not use /etc/network/interfaces. You just have to adapt those instructions for Slackware. Also, if you do not have wpasupplicant installed, obviously that command will not work either.

Here is the guide I used for WPA: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/...r_Slackware_11

Remember, make sure you understand what each command does before you use it :-). I guarantee that it is possible to make your wireless card work using ndiswrapper, so do not get discouraged!

If you're going to try ndiswrapper, definitely spend some time reading the ndiswrapper wiki (the link is in my sig). There are some absolutely excellent installation instructions there.