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Old 08-03-2011, 06:13 AM   #1
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arch linux --- pain in the ass !!!!!!!


i have a vaio (damn old)..... it came with winXP.... i got archlinux from the net .... installed it with proper procedure (as given @ its official site)......it is installed successfully , the but the damn problem here is , when the machine is started , it asks for "my host login:"
im supposed to enter"root"
then the pswd,
by default none,
by doing this all i get is nothing.......
i mean thers no desktop ,im just logged into archlinux with "root"
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is there no desktop for this os ????
 
Old 08-03-2011, 06:21 AM   #2
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Did you bother to read the installation instructions?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide
 
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:23 AM   #3
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i did !!!!!!!
ive mentioned also ?? in the second line .......
 
Old 08-03-2011, 06:27 AM   #4
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Arch doesn't come with Xorg or a DE/WM by default. You'll have to install one yourself. The wiki has excellent guides on how to install Xorg, as well as a desktop environment such as GNOME, KDE, and Xfce, among many others.

EDIT: Actually, the first thing you'll want to do is create a normal user*. Running any Linux system as root all the time is generally considered bad practice (it creates security vulnerabilities, as well as not protecting you from dumb mistakes ).

* - See man useradd for more info, or Google it, whichever is easier/faster for you. An example would be:

Code:
useradd -md /home/joeuser -e 2012-12-21 joeuser
…to create a user named "joeuser" whose home directory is /home/joeuser (creating it if it doesn't exist), which expires at Armageddon.

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Old 08-03-2011, 06:28 AM   #5
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i think my hard disk is gone , how do i check ??
 
Old 08-03-2011, 06:29 AM   #6
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I'd suggest keeping reading it - especially the sections about adding a user and a Graphical User Interface.

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Old 08-03-2011, 06:46 AM   #7
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ya ya sure .... )
 
Old 08-03-2011, 08:02 AM   #8
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I think

Don't Feed the Troll


arch rocks and the guide will tell you everything to get a working OS with a nice desktop ether gnome or kde
 
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:51 AM   #9
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is there no desktop for this os ????
If you actually read the beginners guide, you would clearly see that the answer is "No".

And if you think that's a bad thing, aren't familiar with Linux, and are not very interested in learning it, you shouldn't be using Arch.
 
Old 08-03-2011, 01:36 PM   #10
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i think my hard disk is gone , how do i check ??
Open up your computer and see if it's still in there.

If you are new to Linux do not use Arch. Get openSUSE or Fedora or Ubuntu. With those you get a usable system after answering a few questions.
 
Old 08-03-2011, 02:05 PM   #11
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My experience is that Arch (besides Gentoo and LFS) comes with a excellent documentation and is a good distribution for learning-purposes.

But Arch isn't adequate for people who don't want to learn or even don't want to read.

Markus

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Old 08-03-2011, 02:12 PM   #12
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But Arch isn't adequate for people who don't want to learn or even don't want to read.
Or for people who just want to install Linux with minimal effort and then get on with using their computer.
 
Old 08-03-2011, 03:31 PM   #13
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Or for people who just want to install Linux with minimal effort and then get on with using their computer.
Actually, it is incredible that so many users DON'T want just that.
But there are different linux'es for different people and situations/needs.

Arch is very nice in that it lets you start out with a minimal base system, and build on that what you need.
I also agree that it is a VERY nice choice for learning Linux, but for someone that obviously don't care about how the system works, it might not be ideal!

Seriously, after reading this post I start to wonder if this is only a joke from threadstarter's point. If not, try to think before you write, and read before you ask.
I think you should go with Ubuntu if you want a 'boot and go' kind of system. Even OpenSuse and Fedora will be too high tech...
 
Old 08-03-2011, 03:38 PM   #14
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Actually, it is incredible that so many users DON'T want just that.
But there are different linux'es for different people and situations/needs.
I guess a lot of linux users are knowledge-hungry tweakers who don't like 'defaults'
 
Old 08-03-2011, 03:40 PM   #15
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You should try Debian net-install instead if you have issues with reading documentation.
 
  


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