Accessing my second HD

aje · 10-18-2004, 08:49 PM

Ah, thank you.

I used Kwrite. The file has been edited. But the folder still seems locked.

darthtux · 10-18-2004, 08:54 PM

As root did you type in the command

Code:

mount -a

Tap-Out · 10-18-2004, 09:01 PM

Darthtux is giving excellent advice, and I'm sure if you have a little patience you'll be there in no time at all.

Also let me add that for someone who has only been using Linux for a matter of hours you are comming along VERY well. I was totally lost my first time(s). Keep plugging away at it and I'm sure you will work out the problem.

Cheers

Tap

aje · 10-18-2004, 09:04 PM

Alright, I ran that command after editing the file in kwrite.

No luck ...

darthtux · 10-18-2004, 09:07 PM

Tap-Out,

Well said.

It takes time to learn new things and it does take time.

aje,

Your learning

What is the output or error of running the command.
ls /mnt/win_c2

aje · 10-18-2004, 09:23 PM

I went into root, and typed that command.

It showed the contents of the drive

In konquerer the folder is still "locked". Should I just ditch the world of GUI file browsing?

And yes ... I am learning loads just by following your advice. Even though I still do feel like I've never been on a computer in my life ...

And I thought I knew how to use a computer well when I was using windows *rolleyes*

EDIT: on a sidenote, The names of folders are showing up blue in the list. What does this mean?

mary · 10-18-2004, 09:39 PM

Yeah, you are doing great with Linux! I didn't figure out how mount a drive/use fstab for several months. And I know that feeling - thinking you are really quite good at computers, and then being thrown into a whole new world, feels like you don't know anything at all.

Well, I'm having the same problem, I am not sure how to allow a user to access the directory.

But, you can use this command:

Code:

kdesu konqueror

to open a konqueror window as root. Just be careful not to hurt something by mistake.

Then you can copy files over to your personal directory. However, the files will probably have messed up permissions. I wrote a little script to help me with changing permissions quickly, maybe it would be of use to you as well.

Copy it into kwrite and save it.

Code:

#!/bin/bash

# A helpful permission changer script

echo "What directory or file would you like to change permissions of?"
read dir

echo "What permissions do you want to use?"
read chmod

echo "What user do you want the files to be owned by?"
read chown

echo "What group do you want the files to use?"
read chgrp

chmod -R $chmod $dir
chown -R $chown $dir
chgrp -R $chgrp $dir

Then do:
chmod a+x (whatever-you-called-it.sh)
Then, as root, run it from a terminal
./(whateveryoucalledit.sh)

Read this on permissions so you know how to change them:
http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml

I'm not promising that the script will work alright, but it's very simple and I don't see how anything could go wrong with it. I've used it a lot.

Oh, and the blue is just colour-coding for folders. Folders are ofter one colour, normal files another, maybe executable files different, etc.

aje · 10-18-2004, 09:46 PM

So do I have to move my files onto the same directory that my OS is installed on for them to become completely accessible? I may be reading wrong but thats what it sounds like when you say that I can then copy my files over to my personal directory.

mary · 10-18-2004, 09:49 PM

Sorry I wasn't clearer. I probably could have worded that better, and I shouldn't have gone on about permissions either.

You can read them, open them, whatnot, but if they are on ntfs you can't write to them.
You don't have to copy them over if you don't need to change the files. It's probably faster to have them on linux native filesystem, but I don't know...

darthtux · 10-18-2004, 09:55 PM

With ntfs you can view the files but not write to them. To write you will need to move them to a linux partition. But you should still be able to view them.

Run the command

Code:

ls -l /mnt

and see what the permissions for that mount point are - win_c2.

I don't know too much about the lock iin the gui because I am so used to the command line. So I don't know what is up with Konqueror.

aje · 10-18-2004, 09:56 PM

I think I'll be forced to leave them until I get a bigger HD. The HD that my OS is on is a 40gig, and the second one is an 80, with only 6 GB free. This houses my music and other important media files.

And i'm assuming I cannot format this drive to a linux filesystem without losing my data. Am I correct?

darthtux · 10-18-2004, 09:59 PM

Yes, you would lose your data.

Can you access the files and view them as a user now? You should still be able to play the music files, etc.

aje · 10-18-2004, 10:04 PM

I'll have to use the "kdesu konqueror" Command each time I guess.

Well at least I can access my data. Next step ... Installing XMMS ... I've already failed miserably twice but I think This thread is done.

Thanks very much to all who have helped

aje · 10-22-2004, 12:32 AM

I guess I lied about this thread being done.

I uninstalled mandrake10.0, and used a few live CD's for a couple days.

I just installed fedora core 2, I like it a lot! Only thing is I can't get to my second HD, and I've used the methods used in this thread and they aren't seeming to work.

I'm using the command "mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /home" and It is telling me "mount: fs type ntfs not supported by kernel"

I also tried the command in the first reply of this thread and I got here:

Code:

[root@localhost /]# fdisk /dev/hdb
 
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 9964.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
 
Command (m for help):

And when I press m for help, I get this:

Code:

Command action
   a   toggle a bootable flag
   b   edit bsd disklabel
   c   toggle the dos compatibility flag
   d   delete a partition
   l   list known partition types
   m   print this menu
   n   add a new partition
   o   create a new empty DOS partition table
   p   print the partition table
   q   quit without saving changes
   s   create a new empty Sun disklabel
   t   change a partition's system id
   u   change display/entry units
   v   verify the partition table
   w   write table to disk and exit
   x   extra functionality (experts only)

So ... yes I am again confused on how to access my second HD.

On a side note, it was not present while I installed the OS ... I have a feeling this has something to do with my problem.

EDIT/update: I went here and installed that ntfs rpm. Then when I went to mount the HD using "mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /home" I got this"

Code:

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,
       or too many mounted file systems

I tried the fdisk /dev/hdb and got the same results as before.

Tap-Out · 10-22-2004, 01:37 AM

Welcome to the wonderful world of Fedora/Red Hat.

You did quite well to go and find the NTFS rpm package. Believe it or not another simple command will solve your problems (well it should anyway)

Code:

su
root password
/sbin/modprobe ntfs

now from there use the mount command with the ntfs file system and you should be all good to go again.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Tap