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Since you don't seem to have much knowledge on the process, I would suggest that you simply do a new install of Mint 19 on the currently unallocated space between sda5 and sda6. You do understand that if you combine unallocated space with your current install of Mint 18 and install Mint 19 there, you will overwrite everything from the 18 install.
You can use GParted which should be on the Mint install USB to create the partition from the 21GB of unallocated space before beginning the install. This should appear as a logical partition (sda8) during the install. If you do this before beginning the install, you should not see the message in your last post. If you do, click the No tab as you won't need to create, delete or resize partitions. If you create the partition in advance, you would use the Something Else manual install option and select sda8 on which to install Mint 19 which should put Grub in the MBR and include Mint 18 in the boot menu. You can worry about combining the partitions later. 21GB is more than enough for a basic install of Mint.
Hi,
Actually since my post yesterday, I have managed to use GParted and merge the two partitions. So now I have sda6 that is 85Gb, and obviously it didn't cause any problems as my 18.3 version is still running on it.
I was planning to install 19.3 and overwrite the 18.3 installation when I ran into the issue I posted about earlier regarding the "Unmount Partitions that are in use" message that was looking for a Yes/No answer.
1. Where did you get the third party software? If not at the link that I gave you above on post # 8 https://linuxmint.com/documentation.php where did you download it from?
I was trying to install Mint:
It seems to follow the guide above initially:
4. If you are connected to the Internet, tick the box to install the multimedia codecs > That's the box I ticked.
It says: "Install third party software", etc I thought that going to be was all the stuff like Libre Office, different browsers, VLC, etc?
It was after that the message appeared.
* * * *
2. Do you have a 'dual boot' system? With Windows?
Yes, Windows 7. I use it once it a blue moon.
3. Can you give us the results of:
Code:
inxi -Frz
System: Host: PCMint Kernel: 4.15.0-46-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.7 Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine: System: Gateway (portable) product: ID57H v: V1.03
Mobo: Gateway model: SJM50_HR
Bios: Gateway v: V1.03 date: 04/26/2011
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5-2410M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
clock speeds: max: 2900 MHz 1: 2526 MHz 2: 2249 MHz 3: 2584 MHz
4: 2167 MHz
Graphics: Card-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
Card-2: NVIDIA GF108M [GeForce GT 540M]
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 driver: intel
Resolution: 1366x768@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile
GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.2.8
Audio: Card Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-46-generic
Network: Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet driver: atl1c
IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Card-2: Broadcom and subsidiaries BCM43225 802.11b/g/n
driver: bcma-pci-bridge
IF: wlp3s0b1 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 750.2GB (64.4% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK7559GS size: 750.2GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 84G used: 46G (58%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
ID-2: swap-1 size: 12.73GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda7
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 85.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 78.0
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dlech-keepass2-plugins-xenial.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/dlech/keepass2-plugins/ubuntu xenial main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/dlech/keepass2-plugins/ubuntu xenial main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/jtaylor-keepass-xenial.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/jtaylor/keepass/ubuntu xenial main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/jtaylor/keepass/ubuntu xenial main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com sylvia main upstream import backport
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ xenial partner
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free #Opera Browser (final releases)
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list
deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tor-xenial.list
deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial main
deb-src http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial main
Info: Processes: 221 Uptime: 5:30 Memory: 5062.4/11862.0MB
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
uname -r
Code:
4.15.0-46-generic
Paxolin,
Thank you. The information will help all of us more fully understand.
1. At this point I am not sure why you got the notice:
Quote:
tick the box to install the multimedia codecs > That's the box I ticked.
It says: "Install third party software", etc I thought that going to be was all the stuff like Libre Office, different browsers, VLC, etc?
It was after that the message appeared.
To me, this notice is unusual and I am having a problem in reconciling it as LibreOffice, VLC, etc... do not need to be set up in the installation process and neither have I ever had a notice saying, "tick the box to install codecs."
2. At this point I somewhat feel that the problem resides in Windows 7.
3. Lastly, can you learn how to put your coding results in "code tags?" Here is the link to learn how to do so. How to add Quote & Code Tags & Other Information:
A question. Is your Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia OS operationally better, faster, at this point? Can you give us the terminal code the journalctl 'crash report' (for the 18.3 OS)? The report may be a little bit lengthily but it will help us understand the problem for the Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia OS behaving slow.
Code:
~$ journalctl
I need to do further research on points # 1 and # 2 before I can give you further advice. If there is anyone else who can give further advice on this situation please jump in.
Last edited by greencedar; 04-20-2020 at 08:46 AM.
Reason: took out the "?" in the journalctl code. Replaced the 'code' link.
greencedar thanks for replying again. Sorry for the slow reply, looks like we're 12 hours apart time-wise.
Point 1: You said you haven't seen that, obviously I had it appear and I was quoting what it said at #4 in the installation guide: https://linuxmint-installation-guide...t/install.html The image says "third party software", that's why I assumed it was Libre Office, etc. It's the heading above it that says codecs.
Regarding your point 2, thinking that it might be a windows problem. How can that be when I don't run windows (well perhaps a couple of times a year for specific programs)?
I have dual boot and through that run Cinnamon.
The code tags. Yes, I'm sorry. Now you mention it I do remember seeing it before, but had forgotten about it. I'll try to pay more attention in future!
My Mint 18.3 is running with the larger 85Gb partition exactly the same slow speed as it was before. I've noticed over the last year it's gradually got slower and slower.
Starting up (I've never timed it) but I know it takes a lot longer than it used to.
When I start Thunderbird, I click to start and apart from being slow, it starts up 14 times (seriously -14!) so I have to close 13 of them.
Also in Thunderbird I have Calendar and when a reminder pops up on the screen, clicking 'Dismiss' results in a wait of between 10 to 20 seconds before it disappears.
Quite often clicking on an image there will be a delay of 5-10 seconds before it shows up - a lot longer than when I installed 18.3 two years ago, then it was virtually instant.
Does the code I've pasted below give you any insight?
I cannot detect any major problems with the journalctl report, But, if there is someone with more knowledge or experience, that can give us any insight, let us know.
Before you continue with my following thoughts, give us the results for the following two codes.
Code:
~$ systemd-analyze
and
Code:
~$systemd-analyze blame
Concerning # 4 in the Mint Installation Guide. "third party software" is not LibreOffice, or any other Linux Mint Software Manager app. But, "third party software is 'proprietary' software.
Even though you do not use the Windows 7 very often the Microsoft OS, and updates, and other proprietary apps, can cause problems with your Linux 18.3 OS.
If you do not need to use your Windows 7 I would click,"Erase disk and install Linux Mint" on the Linux Mint Guide # 5, "Choose and installation type."
I cannot detect any major problems with the journalctl report, But, if there is someone with more knowledge or experience, that can give us any insight, let us know.
Before you continue with my following thoughts, give us the results for the following two codes.
Code:
~$ systemd-analyze
and
Code:
~$systemd-analyze blame
Concerning # 4 in the Mint Installation Guide. "third party software" is not LibreOffice, or any other Linux Mint Software Manager app. But, "third party software is 'proprietary' software.
Even though you do not use the Windows 7 very often the Microsoft OS, and updates, and other proprietary apps, can cause problems with your Linux 18.3 OS.
If you do not need to use your Windows 7 I would click,"Erase disk and install Linux Mint" on the Linux Mint Guide # 5, "Choose and installation type."
I'm not really sure what 'proprietary software is? I thought all Linux programs were free to be distributed by the owner?
Or have I misunderstood something completely there?
I'd be too scared to remove windows completely, as I just don't know what I might need in the future, not being particularly technical, but just a PC user.
I've not had any windows issues happen with Cinnamon before, so I just don't know why it's happened this time?
The systemd-analyze and systemd-analyze blame | head results that you gave us does not indicate a problem within your Linux Mint 18.3 problems.
In order to help you understand 'proprietary' software and Linux software programs I have some links for you to study that may help your understanding. Also, I have given a link to help you understand 'malicious' software. There are good, sound, reasons why folks like me will not allow, if possible, any Microsoft software, or other proprietary software, on their computer. I know this involves difficult decisions. I understand why you stated completely giving up Windows 7 is a hard decision.
FYI. I use two computer towers: (1) One tower to handle my Windows 10 OS; and, (2) One tower to handle my Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa: in Missouri. (3) While on Taiwan ( I am a missionary), I have a separate tower to handle my Windows 10 OS and a separate tower to handle my Ubuntu Bionic Beaver 18.04 OS. I am not paranoid, but, I am realistic. Microsoft Windows, anyone of MS OS's, has so much proprietary, malicious, and other malware problems, that I, and a lot of other people, cannot trust MS.
I am coming to the conclusion, as I originally stated, that the problem may not lie with your Linux Mint 18.3 but with your Windows 7 being infected by malicious software by Microsoft or other malware that has effected your Linux 18.3 and booting problems.
Here are some coding information to determine is you have a 'swap' problem with your Linux Mint 18.3 OS.
For ‘swap’ information:
Note: If you are not familiar with 'root' let us know.
Code:
~$ free
Code:
~$ free -m
Code to use ‘root’
Code:
~$ sudo -i
Code:
~# sysctl -a | grep swap
Code:
~# fdisk -l
Type ‘exit’ to get out of root.
Maybe, if it is a 'swap' problem we can clear it up.
Also, as always, my expertise is not the best, so if there is anyone else that sees a problem, or the solution that I am missing, please join in and give your advice.
'Root' is when you use the terminal as a 'superuser' or when you can use the full privileges, or modify anything within the Linux / Unix type OS's, or to gather further OS information. For some information, changing critical programs, within any Linux/ Unix type OS's, you need to use 'root' privileges. The 'root' command must be used cautiously as there can be serious consequences if used incorrectly. Here is the link to an article with a fuller, and better, definition than I can give. http://www.linfo.org/root.html
To use 'root,' in the terminal, instead of the command, type:
Code:
~$ sudo -i
as I previously instructed and after you copied the needed commands get out of root by typing in
Quote:
'quit'
as previously instructed. Do not forget to get out of root as soon as you have the needed information that I requested.
Last edited by greencedar; 04-22-2020 at 09:52 AM.
Reason: English errors
To my understanding of swap, your swap looks fine.
Thus far I cannot find a sizable enough problem to know why your Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia OS is acting the way it is. I do want you to bear in mind that I am not an Linux expert. So, if others point out a problem that I missed I appreciate it.
I have not asked you previously when you last updated and upgraded your distro Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia OS, So, we will do it at this time.
The update and upgrade will, depending on what is updated, take from a couple of minutes or longer. The files that are updated and upgraded will also be lengthily and load fast. What we are mainly concerned in this command is whether or not the OS has improved. So, after the update and upgrade. restart the computer and ascertain if the Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia OS speed, and other characteristics, have improved.
I did the update, it took about fifteen minutes.
I restarted Cinnamon.
I noticed this time instead of Thunderbird opening 14 times, it's now 15. There again, I suppose one more doesn't make any difference - just one extra click to close it.
Regarding speed, it might perhaps be fractionally faster, but I can't be certain.
If you look at the report below I saved before I rebooted, you can see the last line about en_GB.utf8
I noticed that popped up perhaps 20 times while the upgrade was running.
Although I live in Thailand I wanted the things like the date and measurements to appear UK style - like DD-MM-YY.
In the past I got some help to change it to locale UK, but it seems there's something missing, even though the dates, etc appear as I wanted.
To me that seems OK. I don't know if it causes other problem with the missing English GB setup?
I can change the keyboard from US to Thai, and UK if I need to for the £ sign.
A Thai keyboard has Thai and US English on it, it's the only option.
Code:
DKMS: install completed.
Setting up ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (1.60-3~ubuntu16.04.3) ...
Setting up xserver-xorg-input-all (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Setting up xserver-xorg (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Setting up xorg (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Setting up xserver-xorg-video-all (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu11) ...
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.122ubuntu8.16) ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-46-generic
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_guc_ver8_7.bin for module i915
Warning: No support for locale: en_GB.utf8
Right now I do not have the time to double-check the update as I am currently not on my Linux Mint 19.1 OS. I too use two languages, Chinese (Traditional) and English with two different time zones at times (Missouri and Taiwan). So, I will do further checking on your update question later on either today or tomorrow morning.
Concerning your Thunderbird opening too many times. This is not normal at all and may be the problem. But, since you dual-boot with Windows 7, we may not be able to help you. A couple of thoughts though.
1. A continual opening up of Thunderbird indicates that some other program, not Thunderbird, is trying to use your default mail app for some reason. Usually this reason indicates malicious character.
2. You need to go through your running processes, on Windows, and find out which one of the processes is causing the problem (if possible).
Again, something is not normal with your Thunderbird program.
paxolin,
1. A continual opening up of Thunderbird indicates that some other program, not Thunderbird, is trying to use your default mail app for some reason. Usually this reason indicates malicious character.
2. You need to go through your running processes, on Windows, and find out which one of the processes is causing the problem (if possible).
greencedar
I don't understand that. Windows isn't running, only Cinnamon. How can windows affect it?
On windows I used to run Thunderbird too.
My friend who is a programmer introduced me to Linux a few years back, said it wasn't affected by viruses - not that I'd know.
This multiple opening issue has been going on for months, perhaps nearly a year now. It started with Thunderbird opening a couple of times, then sometimes when I started up again, it added another one, then another.
I don't understand that. Windows isn't running, only Cinnamon. How can windows affect it?
On windows I used to run Thunderbird too.
My friend who is a programmer introduced me to Linux a few years back, said it wasn't affected by viruses - not that I'd know.
This multiple opening issue has been going on for months, perhaps nearly a year now. It started with Thunderbird opening a couple of times, then sometimes when I started up again, it added another one, then another.
If Windows has any shared files with Thunderbird, and it appears that it has, than your Windows will affect it with Cinnamon running. Windows 7, can be easily corrupted. The shared files between Windows and Thunderbird, and Linux, probably has malware in it. Your friend was right; Linux is not easily affected by viruses, but viruses can occur.
I would suggest reading some of the articles in the attached link on Security here on Linux Questions: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ux-security-4/
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