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Old 12-21-2011, 06:24 AM   #16
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thanks Also for your words gblacks .
you got me also to use the xfce and it's really fast and wonderfull to use !
Where on the same road of thinking man and to all Linux users , try it out the Mint-debian Xfce !
Wonderfull piece of work .
greetings
 
Old 01-06-2012, 09:55 AM   #17
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LMDE-XFCE is decent, to be sure.
SalineOS, IMO, is superior, although it's Squeeze based.
 
Old 01-07-2012, 02:06 PM   #18
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I'm a Debian Testing user and am seriously pissed off by the behaviour of Gnome3(3.2) Desktop especially a particular issue which is not resolved even now. it isn't a small issue and I can't find a package to report it to Debian BTS.

So, I was seriously thinking, to try Linux Mint's "Cinnamon" fork of Gnome3. Anyone Here tried using it? is it matured enough and available in mint repositories?

meantime, please recommend Me a linux-mint version carrying Cinnamon Desktop if available for a try.

TIA+

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Old 01-07-2012, 03:31 PM   #19
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Cinnamon

I'm not sure if it is included on the Mint 12 DVD - best to check the Mint Users Forum - it's a good forum and you should be able to get a firm answer. You are correct in your assessment of Gnome 3 - what are they thinking? Like I posted earlier, most users have a small handful of applications that they use so who needs a screen full of pretty buttons? Let me know how you go with Cinnamon - there's been a fair bit written recently but I haven't had time to follow it.
 
Old 01-07-2012, 05:32 PM   #20
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I'm a Debian Testing user and am seriously pissed off by the behaviour of Gnome3(3.2) Desktop especially a particular issue which is not resolved even now. it isn't a small issue and I can't find a package to report it to Debian BTS.
I am wondering what you have done in the meantime to fix this issue. I read your other post and while your first post is detailed you don't say much after that. Have you asked on other fora?

Checking the Mint repository list (something you could have done for yourself btw) says that Cinnamon and cinnamon-seesion are available in the Lisa repository. A quick Google (also something you could have done for yourself) indicates you can install cinnamon on any current version of Mint by installing cinnamon-session. Not bad for 3 minutes work .

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Old 01-08-2012, 01:22 AM   #21
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Post trying linux mint 12

I have downloaded mint 12 which is based on Ubuntu and will give it a try. I've read the blog from linux mint maintainer and He is saying, He will push cinnamon into LMDE when Gnome-3.2 hits Debian testing(wheezy) repository. So, in brief, this Cinnamon can be easily installable in Ubuntu based Distros like linux mint. but not in Debian versions and Linux Mint Debian Edition(LMDE)

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I am wondering what you have done in the meantime to fix this issue. I read your other post and while your first post is detailed you don't say much after that. Have you asked on other fora?

Checking the Mint repository list (something you could have done for yourself btw) says that Cinnamon and cinnamon-seesion are available in the Lisa repository. A quick Google (also something you could have done for yourself) indicates you can install cinnamon on any current version of Mint by installing cinnamon-session. Not bad for 3 minutes work .
regarding the problem with Gnome3, I am content with Gnome fallback as of now. I occasionally login into Gnome-Shell to check if the issue is resolved..not yet. however, please note, I am not a Gnome3 hater. I am open to try it.

I find it hard to find which package is responsible for the issue in Gnome-shell!

before posting here(the last thread), I tried My bit by upgrading Nvidia driver from experimental, posting it in debian and nvidia forums assuming it will be a driver issue and it was not.

Later, I was hinted that this can be a issue with gnome-shell either mutter, the window manager or clutter library may be responsible for it. hoping for a fix, I installed Gnome-3.2 and it is not resolved yet.

Thanks for the replies and support,
DC
 
Old 01-17-2012, 08:14 PM   #22
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mint debian xcfe
For better or for worse, "update packs" != "rolling release".
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It's not checked at all it comes straight from the Debian repositories.
I believe the quoted statement is incorrect.
Clearly packages are checked -- as in, held back, until enough have been checked to merit release of an update pack. To date, has anything contained within a Mint update pack "broken" anyone's install, or introduced regressions? I haven't read many reports of newly-introduced bugs.

Early on, I gave up wrestling with mint's sources.list and the stupid (IMO) MintUpdate app. Changed my sources to debian testing... and forged ahead, continually installing newest available xfce-related packages (and, initially, ignored most other "status=installed/updateable" packages). As a result, thankfully, several really annoying xfce bugs have disappeared. Somewhere along the way, I decided to do a second install. In that redundant copy, I messed with getting KDE-native apps to run inside xfce session; not a satisfactory result, and I've about given up on that prospect.

With "treat recommended packages as dependencies" UNchecked in Synaptic settings, so far I've updated around half (520?) of the Mint-installed packages to match the versions present in debian testing. The issue of direct and indirect Gnome3 dependencies seems to be the showstopper... and THOSE are the packages which the mint devs are necessarily checking, er, holding back.

ps:
I've probably burnt the dist-upgrade bridge, eh?

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Old 01-17-2012, 08:54 PM   #23
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I believe the quoted statement is incorrect.
Believe what you want you haven't even got it in context so there's your first mistake.
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Clearly packages are checked -- as in, held back, until enough have been checked to merit release of an update pack. To date, has anything contained within a Mint update pack "broken" anyone's install, or introduced regressions? I haven't read many reports of newly-introduced bugs.
They, the packages I was referring to, are not checked by the Mint Devs, which is where it is very important to have the quote in the correct context. The vast majority of packages for LM Debians come straight from the Debian repositories and that is fact. The LM Devs DO NOT check these, they check their own and maybe some of the "import" packages but they do not check the Debian packages. You can bypass MintUpdate easily by using apt-get, I did and had a much better system for it.

If you want to know about LM Debian breakages check out the thread at the LM forums, it's only about 80 pages long.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 11:47 PM   #24
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thread at the LM forums... about 80 pages long
'Scuse me for doubting & thanks for the heads up!
I found it:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=67502
Yep 80pages ~~ 1600 posts!

I usually just catch up reading via AdvancedSearch } LMDEsubforums only, contains "xfce". At some point (October?) I must have tripped over that thread, but not much seemed related to xfce so I didn't read much of it. I did post multiple times in various threads to whine about the updatePack+sources confusion.
 
Old 02-08-2012, 02:49 PM   #25
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I've been using various Linux distro's for over 15 years and what a long way we have come. There are now so many excellent Linux products available and one of the best is Linux Mint Debian Edition. Let's face it, there will never be a perfect Operating System but at least with Mint Debian you have a fantastic "out of the box" foundation upon which you can painlessly build your own fully customized work space or playground. Most O/S's have a dark side (especially those that are NOT Open-Source,) but I can report that LMDE is as pure and clean as it gets.
I would like hear comments about LMDE and I'm happy to answer any questions about it.

Hello,

Ive been unable to download updates and get an error message saying the release file hasnt been found, or something close to it. I will be specific if this doesnt click something for you. Before the release file error, there was another broken files notics but I wasnt able to fix broken files.

Can you help?

Geoffrey zeno@empire.net
 
  


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