HP elite 8000 ultra small form factor hardware

linuxlivecd · 01-29-2023, 01:16 PM

Intel Pentium E6500 @ 2.93GHZ
Wolfdale 45nm Technology

4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (7-7-7-20)

DELL 1708FP (1280x1024@60Hz)
Intel Q45/Q43 Express Chipset (HP)
Intel Q45/Q43 Express Chipset (HP)

Are the following okay to run Mint on the lite version?

I would guess so.

mrmazda · 01-29-2023, 02:47 PM

Same hardware I have from Dell. Best to bring RAM up to 8GB. Not fast, but very usable for ordinary web and document activity. Will play most videos. An upgrade to SSD from HDD is helpful if not done already. I would have expected RAM supported to be 667MHz or 800MHz, possibly more. Upgrade to 8GB should be done with maximum supported RAM speed. Dual channel performance requires matched sticks be installed in pairs.

linuxlivecd · 01-29-2023, 02:59 PM

Hmm, I was trying to find something for it, I don't really need anything that speedy. Just something that will work beyond windows 7 for a short time, a few years.

The hardware I have was I bought off of Ebay several years back, so upgrading isn't an option.

What other or particular versions would be okay for it, I mainly would need firefox only for use. It is a back up, but nothing that serious.

I did try many times from many mirrors downloading Mint, all failed. I did try the bittorrent, but that isn't working for me. Most downloads ten hours.

teckk · 01-29-2023, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Are the following okay to run Mint on the lite version?

Ok to run just about anything that you want.

Code:

cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 23
model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E7500  @ 2.93GHz

free -m
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            3821         500        2352         224         967        2850
Swap:              0           0           0

uname -r
6.0.10-arch2-1

lsblk
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda      8:0    0 298.1G  0 disk 
├─sda1   8:1    0     1M  0 part 
└─sda2   8:2    0 298.1G  0 part /
sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom

lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01)

Works just fine, day in day out. Everything on it works. Only has a USB2 bus, don't care. 24MBps is fast enough to write to an external drive. An it'll play video fine.

https://0x0.st/oFyv.png

You don't have to have as much horsepower as some might suggest.

linuxlivecd · 01-29-2023, 04:37 PM

Sure, mint lite should be okay?

I have lite on the other computer as an alternative, but I am seeing what others are available? Mint seems one. Unfortunate 2.6GB takes too long to download. Will the torrent be the best option for getting a copy of the mint. I'd guess so.

mrmazda · 01-29-2023, 05:20 PM

I've never found any need for a torrent. I've been using wget for downloading for around 3 decades. If a connection breaks, it can pickup right wherever it left off.

It's not so much a distro that is light, but the DE you use on top of its underlying Linux operating system, and which underlying tools are provided and enabled by default. Distrowatch says the choices for Mint are Cinnamon, MATE & Xfce. I don't see anything on Distrowatch that associates "lite" with Mint, so I have no idea which distro Mint Lite would be. I suspect it would be LMDE, which is Debian-based instead of *buntu-based and thus lighter to start with. From where I sit, Mint is the most bloated distro in existence. I tried upgrading Mint Mate 20.3 to 21.1 just days ago and it filled up the / filesystem before the upgrade completed, and this by using a separate filesystem with loads of space for the .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives. It took several hours to whittle out enough bloat to be able to get the upgrade to complete and have some freespace left on /.

My Core2Duos run mostly on Debian, Fedora, Mageia & openSUSE, with a little *buntu mostly for comparisons, and IIRC, one LMDE. My "light" weight DEs are KDE3 on openSUSE, and TDE on the other three. Any distro can be relatively lightweight by removing unneeded bloat, or not allowing it to be installed in the first place, and choosing an efficient and light DE, or not using a DE, but a simple window manager like Fluxbox or IceWM. openSUSE's installer for me makes it easiest to get only what I need and/or want at installation time. I use the 0.2GB NET installation method, which makes 100% of the official software available at installation time with only a minimal initial download that only takes a few minutes or less to fetch, depending on download bandwidth available. Installation itself can take longer this way, but the total available control is hard to beat.

fatmac · 01-30-2023, 04:11 AM

Devuan, the 'live' installable version using XFCE, is on nearly all my machines, been using it for some time now, give it a test run 'live'.

Even works online with just 2GB ram, which is what my converted Chromebook & IGEL thin clients have.

linuxlivecd · 01-30-2023, 11:33 AM

I was able to download a copy of mint. So far I have a copy of lite and mint lite, so what is best for the hardware I have available? I would guess Mint lite.

https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=304

mrmazda · 01-30-2023, 01:46 PM

What Mint calls "lite" is only the lightest of its three choices, not genuinely light. However, it should be just fine for your C2D. Many are perfectly happy using it. Linux Lite is essentially the same thing, just without Mint's additions (what I consider bloat) to Xubuntu. Mint is *buntu-based, and both the distros you downloaded use the XFCE DE. You have a six of one, half-dozen of the other, decision to make. If you favor greens, or ladies' names ending in "a", pick Mint.