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Old 05-28-2006, 12:37 PM   #1
Arnaud_B
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Toshiba m35-s456 overheating


Hi,
I have used this laptop for the last couple of years but the overheating problem is quite recent, both in linux (ubuntu dapper) and windows (doubleboot). I'm not sure how serious the problem is as I dont know what a "normal" temperature is supposed to be but well here are some indications:
1. cat /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state always report that the fan is off. sometimes it seems to blow some air but never very much. Is there a way I could test if my fan work properly without using toshset or lm-sensors as these tools rely on apm and this laptop only support acpi?
2. the temperature never goes under around 65C and can go as high as 95C when compiling. Windows does a little better on that but not that much.
3. my hd is quite hot (Hitachi 7K60, 7200rpm) and it "could" be a factor of overheating but I still don't remember such problem at the beginning. But hddtemp reports the temperature of the hd around 40C which seems fine to me, isnt't it?
4. I was quite surprised to see that the trip points are that high! (see under) could you confirm me it is a normal setting? critical at 119C seems *very* high no? shouldn't it be "critical" before? ;-)
5. Oh and finally could it come from my powermanagement settings? (see available ones under...) I am using "ondemand". userspace was selected by default but I changd this setting when it got too hot. What is a good setting for a laptop? userspace use powernowd right? but what's the point of it compared to the kernel governors?
Thanks in advance for your hekp and sorry for the long email :-)
A.

Some info about my laptop (if you need more please let me know...)
Code:
arnaud@laptop:~$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/*
<setting not supported>
cooling mode:   passive
<polling disabled>
state:                   ok
temperature:             84 C
critical (S5):           119 C
passive:                 118 C: tc1=9 tc2=2 tsp=1800 devices=0xdffda700
active[0]:               118 C: devices=0xdffdbb20
active[1]:               118 C: devices=0xdffdbb20
Code:
arnaud@laptop:~$ cat /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state
status:                  off
Code:
arnaud@laptop:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
userspace powersave ondemand conservative performance
Code:
arnaud@laptop:~$ dmesg | grep ACPI
[4294667.296000]  BIOS-e820: 000000007ff60000 - 000000007ff6a000 (ACPI data)
[4294667.296000]  BIOS-e820: 000000007ff6b000 - 000000007ff70000 (ACPI NVS)
[4294667.296000] ACPI: RSDP (v000 TOSHIB                                ) @ 0x000f8350
[4294667.296000] ACPI: RSDT (v001 TOSHIB 750      0x00970814 MASM 0x06110000) @ 0x7ff64a40
[4294667.296000] ACPI: FADT (v002 TOSHIB 750      0x20030101 MASM 0x61100000) @ 0x7ff69d03
[4294667.296000] ACPI: SSDT (v001 TOSHIB A0019    0x00970814 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x7ff69d87
[4294667.296000] ACPI: DBGP (v001 TOSHIB 750      0x00970814 MASM 0x61100000) @ 0x7ff69fa4
[4294667.296000] ACPI: BOOT (v001 TOSHIB 750      0x00970814 MASM 0x06110000) @ 0x7ff69fd8
[4294667.296000] ACPI: DSDT (v001 TOSHIB A0019    0x20040521 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000
[4294667.296000] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008
[4294671.448000] ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found!
[4294671.452000] ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0c98)
[4294671.452000] ACPI: bus type pci registered
[4294671.453000] ACPI: Subsystem revision 20051216
[4294671.455000] ACPI: Interpreter enabled
[4294671.455000] ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
[4294671.456000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs *3 4 5 7 11)
[4294671.456000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs *3 4 5 7 11)
[4294671.456000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 *7 11)
[4294671.456000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 *11)
[4294671.457000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs *3 4 5 7 11)
[4294671.457000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 *11)
[4294671.457000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs *10)
[4294671.457000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 *4 5 7 11)
[4294671.458000] ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
[4294671.458000] ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0] bus is 0
[4294671.459000] PCI quirk: region 1000-107f claimed by ICH4 ACPI/GPIO/TCO
[4294671.459000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
[4294671.461000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCI1._PRT]
[4294671.462000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCIB._PRT]
[4294671.464000] ACPI: Power Resource [PFAN] (off)
[4294671.464000] pnp: PnP ACPI init
[4294671.465000] pnp: PnP ACPI: found 9 devices
[4294671.465000] PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP
[4294671.465000] PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
[4294671.473000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 3
[4294671.473000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:0b.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
[4294671.851000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 3
[4294671.851000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.6[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
[4294671.851000] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1f.6 disabled
[4294671.852000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] enabled at IRQ 3
[4294671.852000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:08.0[A] -> Link [LNKE] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
[4294671.893000] ACPI wakeup devices:
[4294671.893000] ACPI: (supports S0 S3 S4 S5)
[4294671.956000] ACPI: Fan [FAN] (off)
[4294671.959000] ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1] C2[C2] C3[C3])
[4294671.959000] ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (71 C)
[4294672.293000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 7
[4294672.293000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.1[A] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 7 (level, low) -> IRQ 7
[4294675.223000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
[4294675.325000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11
[4294675.325000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.1[B] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[4294675.426000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.2[C] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 7 (level, low) -> IRQ 7
[4294675.528000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 4
[4294675.528000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.7[D] -> Link [LNKH] -> GSI 4 (level, low) -> IRQ 4
[4294680.576000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
[4294681.390000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] enabled at IRQ 10
[4294681.390000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKG] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
[4294681.406000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:0b.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
[4294681.446000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:05.0[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[4294689.656000] ACPI: AC Adapter [ADP1] (on-line)
[4294689.671000] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present)
[4294689.893000] ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
[4294689.893000] ACPI: Lid Switch [LID]
[4294689.893000] ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
[4294690.155000] toshiba_acpi: Toshiba Laptop ACPI Extras version 0.19a-dev
[4294690.157000] toshiba_acpi: Toshiba hotkeys are sent as ACPI events
[4294690.212000] ACPI: Video Device [VGA] (multi-head: yes  rom: yes  post: no)
 
Old 05-28-2006, 12:56 PM   #2
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Nice laptop, shame about the overheating.

I have a Dell Latitude D400 with a 1.6Ghz Pentium-M. According to acpi it sits between 40 and 50, hits 55 on extended compiling. Like your laptop the threshold is set extreamly high 99c. I don't know toshibas that well, but maybe they include some sort of diagnostics with them? My dell has a 50Meg dos partition that allows me to run hardware tests including the fan.

It sounds like either the fan has failed or the heatsink/grease has come a bit loose. You might have to send it of to be repaired.

If it was me i'd open it up reseat and clean out the heatsink and fan, and put it back together, but I like to live dangerously
 
Old 05-28-2006, 01:30 PM   #3
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KarlosDaJackel,
Thanks for your answer, no I dont't have any disgnosis cd that would allow me to test the fan :-( I guess I should send it to toshiba but I was hesitating a little because it's no longer under warranty... hehe
A.;
 
Old 05-28-2006, 01:38 PM   #4
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Well if it just stays at home on the desk all day you could always try one of those laptop cooler pads? You know the ones with all the little fans in them?

Then on the move just change the cpu govenor to powersave?

Maybe you can get tosh to fix it for free, ask them tough questions.
Do a lot of these fail?
Is this a known issue?
Would'nt you expect a fan to last much longer that this?
Can you repiar it for free as I think a laptop should last more that XX months without a problem regardless of the warranty on it!

If all that dos'nt work, reluctantly pay
 
Old 05-29-2006, 02:10 PM   #5
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I have used this on other toshiba laptops, but not yours.
http://www.buzzard.me.uk/toshiba/fan.html
 
Old 05-29-2006, 04:06 PM   #6
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Thanks for the link but I already tried that but this laptop just supports ACPI... so this doesn't work. Anyway I guess I'm good for a trip to repair place.
Thanks!
A.
 
  


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