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I've checked as much as I can and it seems legit but I not positive. If sending money Western Union via a credit card will give me coverage I might do it.

I'd keep my hand off that one.Looking at the notebooks it is hardly believable that those are new.

No extra or hidden charges. All merchandise will be shipped from the Lithuania. The shipping fees are already included in orders above $500. You will not pay any import tax, all shipments will be wraped like gift to avoid any sort of inspection or taxes, it is only a method vastly used by many sellers. Once you have finished your order, the requested items will be saved, in a few hours you will receive an email with the western union info and total price to perform the payment. We are accepting only paymets via western union as I mentioned in the main page. Happy Shopping.

First they need a spell checker and the thing about import taxes is something a legit company would hardly put on it's website.

Anything that only accepts Western Union as payment should throw up a major red flag. From a recent M$NBC.com article:

"eBay spokesperson Kevin Pursglove said some customers use wire transfers successfully, so his Web site offers no opinion on the payment method. But Baldwin [Rosalinda Baldwin, CEO of The Auction Guild, an auction watchdog company] has a strong opinion.
“I can unequivocally state that any seller that insists the only method of payment they’ll accept is a wire transfer is a scam artist,” Baldwin said. “Wire transfers were designed for people to send money to friends and family in a quick manner, not to send money to strangers.”"

(full article: http://w*w.msnbc.com/news/773280.asp)

Overseas operation, Western Union-only payment .... I'd be VERY suspicious. Personally, I wouldn't send a dime.

("www" changed to w*w because I still can't post links ... workin' on gettin' up to the big 5 posts ... LOL)

I did some research on my own and I find it difficult to believe how this can be anything other that fraud. First things that came to mind:

1) Lithuania is ranked #4 in the "Top 12 Countries for Cyberfraud," Ukraine (#1), Indonesia (#2), and Yugoslavia (#3).

2) No "legitimate" business would openly advertise "you will not pay any import tax, all shipments will be wraped like gift to avoid any sort of inspection or taxes" on their Website.

3) No phone number??? Not even through Register.com. I even searched the local (yes - Lithuania) yellow pages, white pages, and the Chamber of Commerce without a trace of this company. Surprised? Hardly.

4) Payment using Western Union to an international party is not something you wan't to get involved in - major red flag.

5) No mention about different voltage/frequency U.S. vs Europe or b) the different standards used for cell phones in Europe .

6) A simple Google search will alert you to complaints by others saying that this is a scam and urging you not to buy from them.

My list goes to about 20 items and it get worse and worse, including references to non-existent companies/client that are made by their so called trusted "Secure Shopping Network," which happens to be the same as the "Internet Prevention Services." They cite several clients on their Website, which don't actually exist in any other form than a simple webpage. Most of them lead to P.O. boxes in the end.

What really takes the cake in the end though? My vote goes to the customer review by a certain "kim pornh" from san diego, CA. Unbelievable!!! Notice how are the cities are in lower case in the customer reviews. How many people do you know that would make that mistake when they reference their hometown and state? By the way, there is actually no way to submit reviews on their Website even though they provide a link for this.

Sorry for the lengthy post - got carried away in my anger. Like I said though, if this is not enough to keep you away from this site, I have plenty more material.


Cheers

Rikhen

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Lauko 16-50
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Lauko 16-50
Vilkaviskis, LT 4270
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probably false info but if anything it's a start for those that were ripped off.. but as a mgr for a retail establishment those items are either stolen or non-existant. However there is a great need for pedling stolen merchandies, i for one have had a store i worked in robbed "profesionaly" for over 80,000 in laptops and this wasn't the only store in the chain either so, there's a rarity they may be legit sales with stolen merch. I lean toward the non existant idea though.

also notice the phone number .. any legit business would use a real phone #

Heh.. Just noticed that there is a "how did you find us" dropdown box on the order page. One of the options there: "Bulk email"...

Øyvind