The lsmod you show and iwconfig show there is no driver loaded, and can not be configured without the driver.

The new card, is it the same card as your original card? If you want to forge forward with it, would you post the model of card and 'lspci -vv' We need to know you are trying to load the correct driver.

I really appreciate any help yo can give here. This where Im at, using Puppy 2.14 and Netgear WG511T PCMCIA wirelless card. In Puppy I go to menue>setup>network wizzard, which brings up a scerrn to select my drivers. I select ndiswrapper and install the drivers off a floppy. I get a message saying "device 168:c0013 present", click ok and go toa screen that says ndiswrapper loaded sucessfully and in the bottom box under Interfaces it says : 1 active network interface" and there is a wlan0 buttom, click on that brings up another box with 4 buttons: Wireless,test wlan0,auto dhcp, static ip. Hitting the wireless give a no networks found message, test says unable to connect, I dont use auto so I skip that, static ip - I fill the setting out here and get a configeration sucessful. But cant get on the internet - if Im skipping somethting I cant figure out what it is. Im using a 2wire wireless router and have turned off all security features(for now). If it matters I have two 32 bit slots, top one is type II, bottom(where mycard is) is type II/II aka type IV and is zoom video enabled. My manual says thats slot Zero.
Thanks fo any and all help
John

Here a copy of my lspci -vv

00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:7100 (rev 01)
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 32

00:01.0 Class 0680: 8086:7110 (rev 01)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 0

00:01.1 Class 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01) (prog-if 80 [Master])
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 64
Region 4: I/O ports at fcf0 [size=16]

00:01.2 Class 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 64
Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 11
Region 4: I/O ports at fcc0 [size=32]

00:01.3 Class 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 01)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Interrupt: pin ? routed to IRQ 9

00:06.0 Class 0300: 102c:00e5 (rev c6)
Subsystem: 102c:00e5
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Region 0: Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Expansion ROM at 28000000 [disabled] [size=256K]

00:07.0 Class 0607: 104c:ac15 (rev 01)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 168, cache line size 04
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
Region 0: Memory at 28040000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=04, sec-latency=176
Memory window 0: 20000000-21fff000 (prefetchable)
Memory window 1: 22000000-23fff000
I/O window 0: 00001000-000010ff
I/O window 1: 00001400-000014ff
BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- ISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset+ 16bInt+ PostWrite+
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

00:07.1 Class 0607: 104c:ac15 (rev 01)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 168, cache line size 04
Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 10
Region 0: Memory at 28041000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Bus: primary=00, secondary=05, subordinate=08, sec-latency=176
Memory window 0: 24000000-25fff000 (prefetchable)
Memory window 1: 26000000-27fff000
I/O window 0: 00001800-000018ff
I/O window 1: 00001c00-00001cff
BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- ISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- 16bInt- PostWrite+
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

05:00.0 Class 0200: 168c:0013 (rev 01)
Subsystem: 1385:4b00
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr+
Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B+
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 128 (2500ns min, 7000ns max), cache line size 08
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
Region 0: Memory at 26000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME-

Here are my lsmod and iwconfig files:
Module Size Used by
ndiswrapper 178100 0
ide_cd 40100 0
fuse 44388 2
sr_mod 17412 0
cdrom 39424 2 ide_cd,sr_mod
usb_storage 83904 0
snd_mixer_oss 17328 0
snd_seq_midi 8608 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6960 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_opl3_synth 15252 0
snd_seq_instr 8144 1 snd_opl3_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul 7344 1 snd_opl3_synth
snd_seq 48592 5
snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_opl3_synth,snd_seq_instr,snd_seq_midi_emul
snd_ainstr_fm 2352 1 snd_opl3_synth
snd_opl3sa2 19372 0
snd_opl3_lib 10448 2 snd_opl3_synth,snd_opl3sa2
snd_hwdep 9076 1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_cs4231_lib 23856 1 snd_opl3sa2
snd_pcm 77592 1 snd_cs4231_lib
snd_timer 23540 4
snd_seq,snd_opl3_lib,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 10008 2 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 8112 1 snd_opl3sa2
snd_rawmidi 24064 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 7996 5
snd_seq_midi,snd_opl3_synth,snd_seq,snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi
snd 51396 12
snd_mixer_oss,snd_opl3_synth,snd_seq,snd_opl3sa2,snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm,snd_t imer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore 9408 1 snd
lp 12520 0
parport_pc 32100 1
parport 35080 2 lp,parport_pc
apm 20100 0
yenta_socket 27516 5
rsrc_nonstatic 12912 1 yenta_socket
i2c_piix4 8380 0
i2c_core 21408 1 i2c_piix4
uhci_hcd 23356 0
usbcore 126116 4 ndiswrapper,usb_storage,uhci_hcd
nls_iso8859_1 3984 0
nls_cp437 5648 0

****************************************

wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSIDff/any
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated
Bit Rate:54 Mb/s
Encryption keyff
Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0

Thanks guy
John

I have done some googling. First of all, the NetGear card you have appears to have an Antheros chip set. If that is the case, the code that detects devices, may be loading a driver for that card. This would explain why trying to use Ndiswrapper is failing. You can not load two drivers for the same device.

If at all possible you want to use the native driver, not a windows driver and ndiswrapper.

So far this is a theory on my part. There is a driver called MadWiFi that is available for any Antheros chip set cards you may have.

What I'm going to try and find out, is this card got an Antheros chip set. If yes, ditch ndiswrapper, modeprobe the driver, ( may have to install it first ) and get on with configuring it.

I'll see what I can find out for sure...

I went to MadWiFi and it looks like your card is supported. Here is the link.

http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility#WG511T

I really apprecieate all the help you have given so far.I know its asking alot. If I cant get this nework card working, then I'll guess I'll have to give up on Linux, which Im really starting to like. My Netgear card does have the Athoes(?) chip and I did see the Madwifi site last night, however Im an Linux idiot and even after reading the dummy pages I still cant figure out how to install it. Im having enough trouble just getting it on the computer in the first place. I'll see what else I can come up with.

Just so you guys know, Im not just asking and letting it go. I have been reading every piece of info I can find, to the point of my wife screaming at me for not helping around the house that past few days. There is just so much info out there and most of it is conflicting so Im dumbfounded.
Thanks
JOhn

I unloaded the ndiswrapper odule and found an antheros module and selected that. the configeratiion said sucessful and the lights o the pcmcia card are flashing green, additionally there are two small computer symbols in my "taskbar" and one is flashing green - this is the first time this has happened. I using the network setup everything went fine and said everything was sucessful, howeven Rutitl still shows me as disconnected - and doing a scan still shows no networks detected. There are at least 4 unsecure ones in my area so its still not working right. Am I missing some configureation setting? One thing I did note, at boot up I got a message about disabling IRQ 10 and about the network loading sucessfully.
Thanks
John

John,

At this point I'm a little confused. I re-read the thread from the beginning. If I understand where things are at, you now are using the Netgear card, with the Antheros chip set, and you are using Knoppix 5.1 live CD.

If this is the correct at this point, getting the NetGear card to work should be too difficult.

I have a D-link card with this chip set. To get it going after booting up 5.1.1 here is what I do.

1. Run Wavelan Configuration tool. This is where you can input things like ESSID, channel to use ( there 16 of them ) mode of operation, I use managed and I set a wep key, since I have security set up on my router.

After you run the tool, open a konsole and run 'iwconfig' to see the settings that are set. I have seen some problems where some settings are rejected. These settings have to match up with the WAP you are trying to connect to.

2. On the konsole, enter 'su' to get root privlidges. Enter the command 'pump -i ath0' ( without quotes ) and note the name of the interface in my case is ath0. This brings up the interface, and causes a DHCP request.

Re-run iwconfig and run ifconfig. The if this is working, you should see an IP address in the output of ifconfig. If you have an IP address, another command to see the available WAPs is 'iwlist scan' It will return some information about the WAPs your system can 'see'.

What I can't tell you, you need to find out, are the WAPs your are trying to connect to using DHCP? If not, you need to assign an IP addres to the card with ifconfig command, and it needs to be in the sub-net of the WAP you want to connect to.

I connect to my own router, so I have control over everything.

Give this a try and let me know how far you can get.

Ok,
Followed your instructions and this is what happened:

1. Run Wavelan Configuration tool. This is where you can input things like ESSID, channel to use ( there 16 of them ) mode of operation, I use managed and I set a wep key, since I have security set up on my router.

Filled out the info for ESID, channel, mode and key, left the rest blank.

After you run the tool, open a konsole and run 'iwconfig' to see the settings that are set.

This is what iwconfig returned:
lo no wireless extensions
wifi0 no wireless extensions
IEEEE 802.11g ESSID: 2WIRE320 Nickname""
Mode: Managed Frequency 2.462 AccessPoint Not associated
Bit Rate 0 tx Power 18 sensitivity 0/3
retry off tts thrff Fragment thrff
powermanagement off
link quality 0 signal level 0 noise level 0
rx invalid nwid 0 rx invalid crypt 0 rx invalid frag 0
tx excessive retries 0 invalid misc 0 missed beacon 0

2. On the konsole, enter 'su' to get root privlidges. Enter the command 'pump -i ath0' ( without quotes ) and note the name of the interface in my case is ath0. This brings up the interface, and causes a DHCP request.

su worked fine. pump -i ath0 returned : Operation failed. ( I dont use DHCP if that matters, my Routers setup page will not enable it, Ive tried)

Re-run iwconfig and run ifconfig. The if this is working, you should see an IP address in the output of ifconfig. If you have an IP address, another command to see the available WAPs is 'iwlist scan' It will return some information about the WAPs your system can 'see'.

Re ran iwconfig -same results as before. if config returned:
Link encap local loopback
inet addr 127.0.0.1 net mask 255.255.255.0 (***THISIS NOT MY INTERNET ADDRESS)
inet6 addr: : : :1/128 scope : host
up loopback running mtu 16436 metric 1
rx packets 14 errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frames
tx pavkets 14 errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frames
collisions a; 0 txqeue 0
rx bytes 700 (700.0.b) tx bytes 700 (700.0.b)

iwlist returned
lo interface doesn support scanning
wifi0 interface doesnt support scanning
ath0 interface doesnt support scanning: Network is down

Could not do anything with the ifconfig command.
So thats where Im at.

What I can't tell you, you need to find out, are the WAPs your are trying to connect to using DHCP? If not, you need to assign an IP addres to the card with ifconfig command, and it needs to be in the sub-net of the WAP you want to connect to.

I connect to my own router, so I have control over everything.

Give this a try and let me know how far you can get.[/QUOTE]

Just thinking, even if Im not connected to my network should I be picking up the list of networks around me? I really think it has something to do with IRQ10 being disabled at start up, thats where the card is in XP.
Thanks
John

camorri,
Just sent you an email.
Thanks
John

I now understand you are not using DHCP on your router. That explains a lot, pump can not work unless the router is a DHCP server. The interface is not coming active. This is where ifconfig comes in. You will need to do two things with this command. Assign an IP address with mask to the interface, and activate the interface.

If you look at the man page for ifconfig, there are many other things it can do.

I also understand the concern you have over an IRQ. From what I can see in your postings, the card is using IRQ 10. This is from your posting -

Note the line "Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10". If your card did not have any assigned interupt, I don't believe iwconfig would work at all. So, for now my assumption is, this is not an issue.

Now for 'ifconfig' command. You need to know what the sub-net is for your router's wireless connection. Most of these things are a class C private address, for example 192.168.0.x and a mask of 255.255.255.0. This is set up in your router. You can check this out by connecting a system, open a browser, and entering the IP address of the router. That can be determined from the documentation that came with it. It may be a PDF file on a CD. The other source I have used a lot is to download the install manual from the manufacturers web site.

The 'x' in the above example will be a value between 1 and 245. Most routers are shipped with a 1 for the routers IP address, so connecting systems can use 2 to 254. 255 is reserver as a broadcast address.

The 0 is the part you can change, it can be between 0 to 254, by far most systems come with a 0 or a 1 in this part of the IP address.

It is possible to use private class A or private class B addresses. I won't go there, unless that is what you find on your router.

So, if your routers IP address ( this is on the side you connect to ) is 192.168.0.1 and a mask of 255.255.255.0, then you could assign a value oe 192.168.0.2 to your system. That will work just fine.

The command should look like this:
'ifconfig eth0 up address 192.168.0.2'

You can activate the interface, or deactivate, set IP addr and mask. 'ifconfig' by it self will show the status of the interfaces. BTW, 127.0.0.1 is a standard loop back interface. It is there so you can talk to your own machine.

If you can activate the interface, then you can try pinging your router. If that works, then try browsing.

Let me know...

Ok,
Im an idiot. I looked at my settings but they didnt seem to take. Heres what I have on my 2Wire router page: On the left it says Private Network 192.168.0.1 /255.255.255.0 (default) On the right is a box saying Current Settings: Private Network. Router address 192.168.1.254. Subnet 255.255.255.0 DHCP Rance 192.168.1.64 -192.168.1.253. The on a completely different page it says View Broadband details:
Internet Connection Details
Connection Type: PPPoE
Username: jrv331@ameritech.net
Internet Address: 75.33.64.41
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway: 75.33.79.254
Primary Domain Name Server: 68.94.156.1
Secondary Domain Name Server: 68.94.157.1
Domain:
Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU): 1492
Gateway Ping: Successful
DNS Communication: Successful
Configuration Server Post: Successful

So whats what?
Thanks
JOhn

is this the same command that activates the interface?
'ifconfig eth0 up address 192.168.0.2'

This is what I entered at the prompt :
ifconfig ath0 up address 192.168.1.65

Tired a ping but no good
John

Sorry, one more question - what do I need to set just to be able to scan for networks and connect to an open one(wifi location) I think if I can just get that going for now would be great. Also I read somewhere about getting rid of cardmgr and getting pcmciautils. Any thoughts on that?
Thanks
John