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Old 01-31-2008, 05:21 AM   #1
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Hp XB2000 Notebook Expansion Base Hard Drive Not reconized by Mandriva on my Laptop


Hi to all my learned Linux Friends.
I am a Newbie to Linux & a slow learner as I am a Senoir Citizen
I have a Compaq Presario Laptop which I use in a HP XB2000 Notebook Expansion Base which has a Maxtor 160gb hard drive inbuilt.
My Question is: Mandriva Linux doesn't recognise the hard drive.
HELP!! What can I do to make Mandriva see my hard drive?
All help would be appreciated.
Kind Regards
Geoff

Below is all the info from mandriva forum of reebus trying to assist me
So over to the Brains Trust of Linux
All help appreciated
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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2008 20:40 Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd check to see that the machine is basically seeing the hardware. This is a separate docking station kind of thing?

If so, I would assume it has a very proprietary (aka "unique") interface, a slot/plug on the bottom or back somewhere. I would imagine such a thing may not have been addressed by many Linux developers, though I could be wrong.

Run "lshw" (without quotes of course) in a terminal as root and see if there is any mention of the expansion base. You might also try "lspci" and/or run the hardware wizard in the Mandriva control center.

You might want to check the compaq/HP web site and see if, hope upon hope, there is any mention of Linux associated with this hardware.

One last thing: are you booting the machine with the thing plugged in? Are you running live CD (Mandriva One) or have you installed? If you've installed, did you do it with the thing plugged in?

Hopefully it might just be a matter of "hot plugging."

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PostPosted: 29 Jan 2008 06:57 Post subject: Hard Drive Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post
Hi Reebus
Thank you very much for your time & interest.
quote="Reebus"]I'd check to see that the machine is basically seeing the hardware. This is a separate docking station kind of thing?
That is correct my laptop docks in this base. The Base has a amplifier, and the ability to recognise my cable modem and has large Harman/Kardon Speakers the base has a Maxtor 160gb IDE hard drive which I save my date to from my laptop.
Windoze XP recognizes the base no problems.
If so, I would assume it has a very proprietary (aka "unique") interface, a slot/plug on the bottom or back somewhere.
That is Correct it then plugs into my laptop
I would imagine such a thing may not have been addressed by many Linux developers, though I could be wrong.
I have downloaded just about every Linux Distro there is and to date I can't find a Distro that will recognize my hard drive. ( I like Mandriva Linux so I am going to stick with it and try and solve this problem)
Run "lshw" (without quotes of course) in a terminal as root and see if there is any mention of the expansion base.
geoff@localhost ~]$ ishw
bash: ishw: command not found
[geoff@localhost ~]$ lshw
bash: lshw: command not found
[geoff@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost geoff]# lshw
localhost
description: Notebook
product: Presario V5000 (EX078PA#ABG)
vendor: Hewlett-Packard
version: F.54
serial: CND6172QHS
width: 32 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.31 dmi-2.31
configuration: administrator_password=enabled boot=oem-specific chassis=note
book frontpanel_password=unknown keyboard_password=unknown power-on_password=dis
abled uuid=5F33B172-D6C4-11DA-969C-0016D405AED0
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: 30A4
vendor: Hewlett-Packard
physical id: 0
version: 49.63
serial: CND6172QHS
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: Hewlett-Packard
physical id: 0
version: F.54 (02/08/2007)
size: 103KB
capacity: 448KB
capabilities: pci pcmcia pnp upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect int5p
rintscreen int9keyboard int17printer int10video acpi usb agp ls120boot smartbatt
ery
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3300+
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: 15.12.2
slot: U23
size: 2GHz
capacity: 2GHz
width: 32 bits
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic
sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxs
r_opt 3dnowext 3dnow up pni lahf_lm ts fid vid ttp tm stc cpufreq
*-cache:0
description: L2 cache
physical id: 5
slot: L2 Cache
size: 128KB
capacity: 1MB
capabilities: synchronous internal write-back
*-cache:1
description: L1 cache
physical id: 0
size: 128KB
*-cache:2
description: L2 cache
physical id: 1
size: 128KB
*-memory
description: System Memory
physical id: c
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 512MB
*-bank:0
description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous
physical id: 0
slot: JP11
size: 512MB
width: 64 bits
*-bank:1
description: DIMM DRAM [empty]
physical id: 1
slot: JP30
*-pci:0
description: Host bridge
product: RS480 Host Bridge
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
configuration: latency=64
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: RS480 PCI Bridge
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci ht normal_decode bus_master cap_list
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 5
bus info: pci@0000:01:05.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm vga bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=255 mingnt=8 module=fglr
x
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: RS480 PCI Bridge
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 5
bus info: pci@0000:00:05.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master cap
_list
configuration: driver=pcieport-driver
*-usb:0
description: USB Controller
product: IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 13
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: msi ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64 module=ohci_hcd
*-usbhost
product: OHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 2.6.22.9-desktop586-1mdv ohci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@1
logical name: /dev/usb1
version: 2.06
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: maxpower=0mA slots=4 speed=12.0MB/s
*-usb:1
description: USB Controller
product: IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 13.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: msi ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64 module=ohci_hcd
*-usbhost
product: OHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 2.6.22.9-desktop586-1mdv ohci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@2
logical name: /dev/usb2
version: 2.06
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: maxpower=0mA slots=4 speed=12.0MB/s
*-usb UNCLAIMED
description: USB hub
vendor: Atmel Corp.
physical id: 2
bus info: usb@2:2
version: 1.00
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: maxpower=100mA slots=4 speed=12.0MB/s
*-usb:0 UNCLAIMED
description: Generic USB device
product: USB KeyPad
vendor: Casio Computer Co., Ltd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@2:2.1
version: 1.00
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: maxpower=100mA speed=1.5MB/s
*-usb:1 UNCLAIMED
description: Generic USB device
product: USB Receiver
vendor: Logitech
physical id: 4
bus info: usb@2:2.4
version: 19.04
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: maxpower=98mA speed=1.5MB/s
*-usb:2
description: USB Controller
product: IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 13.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm msi ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=64 module=ehci_hcd
*-usbhost
product: EHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 2.6.22.9-desktop586-1mdv ehci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@3
logical name: /dev/usb3
version: 2.06
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: maxpower=0mA slots=8 speed=480.0MB/s
*-serial
description: SMBus
product: IXP SB400 SMBus Controller
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 14
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
version: 11
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ht cap_list
configuration: driver=piix4_smbus latency=0 module=i2c_piix4
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 14.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ide msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ATIIXP_IDE latency=0 module=atiixp
*-ide:0
description: IDE Channel 0
physical id: 0
bus info: ide@0
logical name: ide0
clock: 66MHz
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: FUJITSU MHV2060AT PL
vendor: Fujitsu
physical id: 0
bus info: ide@0.0
logical name: /dev/hda
version: 008300A1
serial: NS89T632CLCP
size: 55GB
capacity: 55GB
capabilities: ata dma lba iordy smart security pm apm partiti
oned partitioned:dos
configuration: apm=off mode=udma5 smart=on
*-volume:0
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 1
bus info: ide@0.0,1
logical name: /dev/hda1
capacity: 27GB
capabilities: primary bootable
*-volume:1
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 2
bus info: ide@0.0,2
logical name: /dev/hda2
capacity: 26GB
capabilities: primary
*-volume:2
description: Extended partition
physical id: 3
bus info: ide@0.0,3
logical name: /dev/hda3
size: 1223MB
capacity: 1223MB
capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:ext
ended
*-logicalvolume
description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
physical id: 5
logical name: /dev/hda5
capacity: 1223MB
capabilities: nofs
*-ide:1
description: IDE Channel 1
physical id: 1
bus info: ide@1
logical name: ide1
clock: 66MHz
*-cdrom
description: DVD-RAM writer
product: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GMA-4082N
physical id: 0
bus info: ide@1.0
logical name: /dev/hdc
version: HQ04
serial: K0164DJ0457
capabilities: packet atapi cdrom removable nonmagnetic dma lb
a iordy pm audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
configuration: status=ready
*-disc
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/hdc
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 14.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master
configuration: latency=0
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
product: IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 14.4
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.4
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master
*-pcmcia
description: CardBus bridge
product: PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller
vendor: Texas Instruments
physical id: 4
bus info: pci@0000:06:04.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pcmcia bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=yenta_cardbus latency=176 maxlatency=5 mod
ule=yenta_socket
*-network
description: AR5001-0000-0000
product: Wireless LAN Reference Card
vendor: Atheros Communications, Inc.
physical id: 0
version: 00
slot: Socket 0
resources: irq:16
*-firewire
description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
product: OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
vendor: Texas Instruments
physical id: 4.2
bus info: pci@0000:06:04.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=64 maxlatency=4 mingnt=2
module=ohci1394
*-storage
description: Mass storage controller
product: PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
vendor: Texas Instruments
physical id: 4.3
bus info: pci@0000:06:04.3
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: storage pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=tifm_7xx1 latency=64 maxlatency=4 mingnt=7
module=tifm_7xx1
*-system
description: Generic system peripheral
product: PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digit
al Controller
vendor: Texas Instruments
physical id: 4.4
bus info: pci@0000:06:04.4
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=sdhci latency=64 maxlatency=4 mingnt=7 mod
ule=sdhci
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 6
bus info: pci@0000:06:06.0
logical name: eth0
version: 10
serial: 00:16:d4:05:ae:d0
size: 100MB/s
capacity: 100MB/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10
bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too d
riverversion=0.9.28 duplex=full ip=192.168.0.139 latency=128 link=yes maxlatency
=64 mingnt=32 module=8139too multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s
*-multimedia
description: Multimedia audio controller
product: IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 14.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.5
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ATI IXP AC97 controller latency=64 mingnt=2 m
odule=snd_atiixp
*-communication
description: Modem
product: SB400 AC'97 Modem Controller
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 14.6
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.6
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: msi generic bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ATI IXP MC97 controller latency=64 mingnt=2 m
odule=snd_atiixp_modem
*-pci:1
description: Host bridge
product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 101
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:2
description: Host bridge
product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 102
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:3
description: Host bridge
product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 103
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:4
description: Host bridge
product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 104
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=k8temp module=k8temp
*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor
vendor: Atheros Communications, Inc.
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:07:00.0
logical name: wifi0
version: 01
serial: 00:18:e7:06:7c:fc
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list logical ethernet physical wireles s
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath_pci driverversion=0.9.4.5 (0.9 .3.2) ip=192.168.0.138 latency=168 maxlatency=28 mingnt=10 module=ath_pci multic ast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11g
*-battery physical id: 1 slot: Left Front


You might also try "lspci" and/or run the hardware wizard in the Mandriva control center.
[root@localhost geoff]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 11)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge
00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:14.6 Modem: ATI Technologies Inc SB400 AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
06:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller
06:04.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
06:04.3 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
06:04.4 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Texas Instruments PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller
06:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01)
[root@localhost geoff]#
You might want to check the compaq/HP web site and see if, hope upon hope, there is any mention of Linux associated with this hardware.
I tried HP/Compaq with no luck, there isn't any software for Windoze iether
One last thing: are you booting the machine with the thing plugged in?
YES.
Are you running live CD (Mandriva One) Mandriva 2008
or have you installed?
Yes I have installed Mandriva onto my Laptop
If you've installed, did you do it with the thing plugged in?
Yes the base was plugged in when I installed Mandriva onto my Laptop
Hopefully it might just be a matter of "hot plugging."
I am sorry that it wasn't just a case of hot plugging
So what do you suggest is my next step?

Thanks again Reebus
Kind Regards
Geoff
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PostPosted: 29 Jan 2008 14:30 Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, the good news is your system is seeing all the hardware physically on the laptop itself. But unless this is part of the docking thing:

06:04.4 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Texas Instruments PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller

...then it appears it is not talking to the port that plugs into it at all.

You'd have to have one of the development brains around here ask you the right question in order to determine if any part of Linux is recognizing the thing.

I would assume multiple buses are channeled through the thing, IDE to see the drive, USB, sound, ethernet, etc. But I would also assume there is a proprietary controller somewhere for this port. Whatever that controller is doesn't appear to be saying anything to your Linux at the moment. (unless that above is at least part of it)

At least it appears all the laptop hardware is working... count your blessings! I have a laptop that I swear hates me. Probably for loading Linux on it. I rifled through it's bedroom once when it was out, and found the complete set of Bill Gates collector series bubblegum cards in it's sock drawer... Wink

I'm afeared your docking station is over my head at the moment... Sad

Reebus
There is all the info from mandriva forum
So over to the Brains Trust of Linux
All help appreciated
Kind Regards
Geoff
 
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My Understanding is that the expansion Base has the means to make it a USB connected drive
Puppy Linux recognizes the drive. and XP Windoze does.
Is this true? Did Puppy recognize it? Well, if it did then boot up with Puppy CD and run lshw and lsmod. Post output here.

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