dose anybody know if wireshark has been run on a systemd linux to catch it in the act of accessing a back door or calling out to any government IP address ?

wow.

now, some people say that systemd is badly coded, does too much, and forces linux users into dependency from one big piece of corporate developed software, is not unix etc.

but phoning home? what a ridiculous thought, and totally unrelated to all valid points of criticism.

are you sure you aren't mixing up conspiration theories?

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IF you consider
it's source ( a U.S. government contractor )
the insane politcal climate here in the U.S.A.
the reply of the head developer to reports of systemd bricking mother boards
( that's not a bug it's supposed to do that )
the size
the number of sub systems it effects
the fact the NSA tired to get the linux kernel crew to put a back door in the kernel
( and was refused )
I'd say this code needs to prove it doesn't have a back door

IF I had a thin skin I would tack this as an insult

Create a VBox, configure --nictrace *before* you Start it. Let us know the answer!

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my only working computer is a 9yearold lap top just not powerful enough to run a systemd O/S in a VM the CPU doesn't have the instruction set to support a VM
I'm not sure this would work unless the host of the VM was NOT running systemd

and even if I caught it red handed would anybody believe me ?
support for systemd has almost become a religion
as you can see from the first reply to this thread
some people are more certain systemd is free of back doors than I am that it almost certainly dose have some malicious intent behind it
for reasons covered in this thread

I also question using things like TOR simply be cause systemd is way too big to be be source code audited

I'm in the U.S.A. and the Idea that a government contractor has so much control over most linux systems is terrafing can anybody say PATRIOT ACT

if you consider theoretically, a lot of things are possible.

systemd can alert aliens to attack planet earth.

RMS can stand for Richard Microsoft Stallman

etc ..

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I thought linux questions had a better caliber of users
did you read the whole thread before you decided to accuse me of being crazy ?
so where are your facts that would even suggest I am crazy ?
you just don't like what I have to say to back you up
at least I have facts to back me up
can you prove that systemd dose not have a backdoor ?
where are your facts ?

I have gone in to more detail in this thread
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...al-4175601243/

...to some.
to others, opposing systemd has become a religion.
let them fight their holy online wars, i stand aside and sadly shake my head.

not in this thread.


no you didn't.
the whole thread doesn't mention systemd at all, except in the signature of your 1 single contribution.

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I am not accusing anyone of anything, I am not a fan of systemd myself.

There is a big difference between not using systemd and accusing it of being a big bloated malware used to spy upon people.

The linux community will never allow the later obviously.

Your facts are events that might not necessarily add up to a conculsion the way I see it.

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this is standard practice discredit the the messenger by questioning the messenger's mental health this way nobody has to address the issues being raised

OK lets put the shoe on the other foot

can you prove your NOT a U.S. government spook
if actions speak louder than words you just used the U.S. government's first line of attack make it about the messenger to distract people from the message

thank you for proving that I have points you can counter with logic

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that's classified.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information

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your almost right on this
to be correct you should have said
"The linux community will never KNOWINGLY allow the later obviously."

I don't much care if you agree with me or not
just come up with a logical argument at least I can give you credit for trying

so do you have a conclusion ?
what are the facts your that conclusion is based on ?

reading this thread, any of a number of monty python scenes comes to mind... (who finds the one that suits it best?)

because people haven't changed so much since then.