[SOLVED] Which search engine is most accurate and private?

carlito386 · 06-11-2019, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Crippled

Yandex is laughable when it comes to privacy by sending all searches and user data directly to the Kermlin, it also censors. As for the rest it's a mixed bag. I just Duck it.

Your personal details are important to: retailers, health insurance, banks, political parties, your government etc.
They are all in your country.

But how is the same info helpful to Russia/China/S Korea?
It isn't!
So use their search engine!

With English-language search engines - we need to use our intuition to know if we can trust them.
And what we learn from the net.

wpeckham · 06-12-2019, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by carlito386

Your personal details are important to: retailers, health insurance, banks, political parties, your government etc.
They are all in your country.

But how is the same info helpful to Russia/China/S Korea?
It isn't!
So use their search engine!

With English-language search engines - we need to use our intuition to know if we can trust them.
And what we learn from the net.

On the other hand,, information collected by a company or government in one country may have great intelligence value to them, and foreigners may not be subject to whatever protection may be in place for citizens. The point is that you cannot KNOW what is collected or what it might be used for, and the urge to limit the potential damage is valid. What country hosts the company or servers may affect the risk, but it will always be present.

273 · 06-13-2019, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wpeckham

On the other hand,, information collected by a company or government in one country may have great intelligence value to them, and foreigners may not be subject to whatever protection may be in place for citizens. The point is that you cannot KNOW what is collected or what it might be used for, and the urge to limit the potential damage is valid. What country hosts the company or servers may affect the risk, but it will always be present.

However, it is a lot less likely that, for example, the Chinese governemt will collect data from you then ask that you be taken there and beaten and raped for a few years while they make a case, then subject to solitary confinement. The US, however...
The US government are, also, good at turning people who are victims of credit card theft into suicide victims.
Perhaps Russia and China do this, also? I'm sure they do, but not to "Western" citizens who stay in their own countries.

wpeckham · 06-13-2019, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 273

The US government are, also, good at turning people who are victims of credit card theft into suicide victims.

I think you confuse Corporate America (the major financial corporations) with the U.S. Government. They are not the same. Not saying that the corporations do not WANT them to be the same, but the Government actually has ID Theft Protections in place. Those protections need to be continually improved to stay ahead of the kinds of ID crime, and our current Congress is TOTALLY ineffective at that. We hope our next Congress, and next POTUS, will do better.

Crippled · 06-14-2019, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by carlito386

Your personal details are important to: retailers, health insurance, banks, political parties, your government etc.
They are all in your country.

But how is the same info helpful to Russia/China/S Korea?
It isn't!
So use their search engine!

With English-language search engines - we need to use our intuition to know if we can trust them.
And what we learn from the net.

Wrong! Russia/China/S Korea can sell your information or use your information for their own personal gain by using your credit.

273 · 06-14-2019, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wpeckham

I think you confuse Corporate America (the major financial corporations) with the U.S. Government. They are not the same. Not saying that the corporations do not WANT them to be the same, but the Government actually has ID Theft Protections in place. Those protections need to be continually improved to stay ahead of the kinds of ID crime, and our current Congress is TOTALLY ineffective at that. We hope our next Congress, and next POTUS, will do better.

No, I am not confusing the two.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore

ondoho · 06-15-2019, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 273

No, I am not confusing the two.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore

Interesting:

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Many of the charges at the (child porn websites) were made using stolen credit card information, and the police arrested the real owners of the credit cards, not the viewers. Thousands of credit card charges were made where there was no access to a site, or access only to a dummy site. When the police checked, seven years after Operation Ore commenced, they found 54,348 occurrences of stolen credit card information in the Landslide database. The British police failed to provide this information to the defendants, and in some cases implied that they had checked and found no evidence of credit card fraud when no such check had been done. Because of the nature of the charges, children were removed from homes immediately. In the two years it took the police to determine that thousands had been falsely accused, over 100 children had been removed from their homes and denied any unsupervised time with their fathers. The arrests also led to an estimated 33 suicides by 2007.

273 · 06-15-2019, 06:34 AM

Indeed, the US government are aq lot more of a danger than any imagined or real threat from the likes of Huwawei. chinese, or Russian governments are nowhere near as much of a threat to those of us who live under US law.