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07-21-2013, 06:00 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Mar 2013
Location: PDX, OR
Distribution: Arch, Debian, Fedora, Mint, CentOS, FreeBSD, OS X
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by msxenix
The free software organization has provided computer users a great amount of programs, including the GNU operating system. However, I think Richard Stallman is a little bit of an extremist. I think that the idea that all software becoming "free as in beer" is unrealistic.
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It is.
The FSF is not about free as in beer, the Free in FSF stands for freedom. Richard Stallman believes all software should be free as in freedom, but is not against selling software.
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07-21-2013, 09:28 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: ...uncanny valley... infinity\1975; (randomly born:) Milwaukee, WI, US( + travel,) Earth&Mars (I wish,) END BORDER$!◣◢┌∩┐ Fe26-E,e...
Distribution: any GPL that work on freest-HW; has been KDE, CLI, Novena-SBC but open.. http://goo.gl/NqgqJx &c ;-)
Posts: 4,888
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Love it! ...(↶sig)between the lines my posts here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...rs-4175470121/
Edits: ps,
Quote:
Originally Posted by TroN-0074
...opensource...
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...not open, Free...
...and of course.
Last edited by jamison20000e; 07-21-2013 at 10:02 PM.
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07-22-2013, 12:08 AM
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#18
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Mar 2008
Location: Waaaaay out West Texas
Distribution: antiX 23, MX 23
Posts: 7,296
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Quote:
if I lived in the way Richard Stallman asks me to live then I don't think I could use Steam on Linux or use game consoles because in his eyes they would be bad because the hardware is closed and cannot be modified.
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He is not just talking to you. He is talking to them and everyone. If I have had my best offer accepted. My computer would have been this one.
Free software is even relied on by Windows and Mac users also. Besides
http://www.zdnet.com/to-the-space-st...ux-7000014958/
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07-22-2013, 12:56 AM
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#19
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Member
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Sydney, Australia
Distribution: Mageia 7
Posts: 406
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RMS "The food is the output of the recipe"
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2 members found this post helpful.
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07-22-2013, 01:07 AM
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#20
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Australia
Distribution: openSUSE
Posts: 1,470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rokytnji
He is not just talking to you. He is talking to them and everyone.
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No... I'm pretty sure Richard stallman only cares that Treverend is the only one whom uses Free software. i rang him up and asked him, everyone else is Free to do as they want. 
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07-22-2013, 03:35 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: ...uncanny valley... infinity\1975; (randomly born:) Milwaukee, WI, US( + travel,) Earth&Mars (I wish,) END BORDER$!◣◢┌∩┐ Fe26-E,e...
Distribution: any GPL that work on freest-HW; has been KDE, CLI, Novena-SBC but open.. http://goo.gl/NqgqJx &c ;-)
Posts: 4,888
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rokytnji
...My computer would...
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Just whanted to put a neet link i found... Wonder if this one supports Blag and such? No. 
Last edited by jamison20000e; 07-22-2013 at 03:43 PM.
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07-22-2013, 08:23 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: May 2007
Posts: 1,007
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love it indeed! Regarding capitalism, it's just 'the invisible hand of the market' used to best advantage. Free software is more specific. I am not an expert in anything but if I want to build a wooden box but the use of hammers is restricted to paid membership of the hammers guild, how do I build a box execpt by paying my membership?
Fred.
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07-22-2013, 09:08 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2008
Distribution: Debian sid
Posts: 2,683
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Caro
love it indeed! Regarding capitalism, it's just 'the invisible hand of the market' used to best advantage. Free software is more specific. I am not an expert in anything but if I want to build a wooden box but the use of hammers is restricted to paid membership of the hammers guild, how do I build a box execpt by paying my membership?
Fred.
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tongue in grove/dove tail and/or mallet with wood glue.
i.e. different structure/tools
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07-22-2013, 09:22 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: ...uncanny valley... infinity\1975; (randomly born:) Milwaukee, WI, US( + travel,) Earth&Mars (I wish,) END BORDER$!◣◢┌∩┐ Fe26-E,e...
Distribution: any GPL that work on freest-HW; has been KDE, CLI, Novena-SBC but open.. http://goo.gl/NqgqJx &c ;-)
Posts: 4,888
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Last edited by jamison20000e; 07-25-2013 at 02:46 AM.
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07-22-2013, 09:33 PM
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#25
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Japan
Distribution: Mostly Debian and CentOS
Posts: 6,726
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Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Caro
Open source code is fine but what are you allowed to do with it?
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Whatever the licence in question permits.
Evo2.
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07-22-2013, 09:35 PM
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#26
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Japan
Distribution: Mostly Debian and CentOS
Posts: 6,726
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Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightron
I love the idea; unfortunately, i think that it could never work successfully within a capitalist culture.
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I guess you didn't purchase any Red Hat stocks...
Evo2.
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07-22-2013, 10:12 PM
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#27
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LQ Muse
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: A2 area Mi.
Posts: 17,691
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opinions -- fun fun fun
well going to extremes is never good
it works for some , a small amount of people
R Stallman for one
yes he DOSE know what he is talking about , but he is also a bit of a "nut case" .
the FSF is a good organization , they do a lot of good work .
but taking a stand on the far left or on the far right , will NOT work for most people
stay someplace in the middle
there is room for EVERYONE in the "sandbox" IF they all "play NICE" and work together .
there is a place and need for proprietary software and for GPL software
Opensource can not do EVERYTHING all by it's self
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1 members found this post helpful.
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07-22-2013, 10:23 PM
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#28
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Japan
Distribution: Mostly Debian and CentOS
Posts: 6,726
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Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by TroN-0074
I like the FSF but I also understand the difficulty on having a system with only opensource software.
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.. the FSF is about Free Software, not open source. There is a difference (but they are not mutually exclusive).
Evo2.
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07-23-2013, 03:26 PM
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#29
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Moderator
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 22,361
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The original point of IP laws were to encourage discovery and innovation. Only from a person willing to create from the sweat from their brow would spring forth new ideas. The Governments were to protect those ideas to repay the creators. After some time, the public was to get these ideas as part of public domain. The first copyright times were generally the considered generation time of 20 years. It is now 100 years or more and no one could life long enough to get those into public domain.
To suggest that everyone on the planet would just do work for the good of their fellow humans is not practical. It is quite well proved that socialism won't produce innovation because humans simply are not cows.
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07-23-2013, 07:35 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Australia
Distribution: openSUSE
Posts: 1,470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV
R Stallman for one
yes he DOSE know what he is talking about , but he is also a bit of a "nut case" .
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Hey they laughed at Neil Armstrong when he said he was going to the moon. Now look; he's up there laughing at us...
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