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Old 04-07-2024, 06:51 AM   #1
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theweathernetwork.com Technical Issue


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Technical Issue

Some outdated browsers or browser versions will not always work with our pages.

Please make sure you are using the most up-to-date version of your browser.

If the browser cannot be updated (Internet Explorer, for example), please download a new browser.

This is a years long issue on this notebook and it seems to be notebook-related rather than OS's or distribution.
This is on Salix but Ubuntu, Alpine-Linux do the same.
AFAIK Everything is up to date.
How to fix this?

I apologize but I can't attach any screenshots today due "security token", I hope one of the admin will fix this bug.



Thanks!

Last edited by lattimro; 04-07-2024 at 04:54 PM.
 
Old 04-07-2024, 07:09 AM   #2
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This is a years long issue on this notebook and it seems to be notebook related rather than OS's or distribution.
This is on Salix but Ubuntu, Alpine-Linux do the same.
Everything is up to date.
How to fix this?

Thanks!
What browser are you using and what version? Have you tried using a different browser to access the site?

When you say "it seems to be notebook related rather than OS or distribution", is that because you have successfully accessed the website using the same browser on the same version of OS on a different computer?
 
Old 04-07-2024, 07:27 AM   #3
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What browser are you using and what version? Have you tried using a different browser to access the site?

When you say "it seems to be notebook related rather than OS or distribution", is that because you have successfully accessed the website using the same browser on the same version of OS on a different computer?
On Salix Firefox 115.9.1esr (64bits). I tried various browser (Falkon), the same issue
On Ubuntu Firefox and Chrome

Yes, the same browsers (and version) works fine on other linux computers.

I apologize but I can't attach screenshots today due "security token"
 
Old 04-07-2024, 08:35 AM   #4
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Just to confirm, is this message all that's being displayed when you try to load the home page of the website? It's not instead being displayed on a particular other page of the site or when you try to load a certain feature, is it?

I take it you've tried clearing your cache or at least loading the website in a private browser window?

I'm wondering if you've modified your browser configuration like disabling Javascript or are running extensions like uBlock Origin, which could be affecting how your browser reports and/or the server interprets the user agent. I'm clutching at straws here because I've loaded the site fine with my usual hardened Firefox, but it's possible there could be a setting which is causing problems.

On Ubuntu, can you update your repositories and upgrade any software, then perform a system restart (even if there were no updates) and then install GNOME Web (epiphany-browser) and try loading the website in that without making any changes to the browser configuration?

P.S. As an example of how servers can misinterpret the client browser / OS, this forum says I posted this message on Windows 10, despite me posting it from Pop!_OS.

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Old 04-07-2024, 08:56 AM   #5
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Just to confirm, is this message all that's being displayed when you try to load the home page of the website? It's not instead being displayed on a particular other page of the site or when you try to load a certain feature, is it?

I take it you've tried clearing your cache or at least loading the website in a private browser window?

I'm wondering if you've modified your browser configuration like disabling Javascript or are running extensions like uBlock Origin, which could be affecting how your browser reports and/or the server interprets the user agent. I'm clutching at straws here because I've loaded the site fine with my usual hardened Firefox, but it's possible there could be a setting which is causing problems.

On Ubuntu, can you update your repositories and upgrade any software, then perform a system restart (even if there were no updates) and then install GNOME Web (epiphany-browser) and try loading the website in that without making any changes to the browser configuration?

P.S. As an example of how servers can misinterpret the client browser / OS, this forum says I posted this message on Windows 10, despite me posting it from Pop!_OS.
Everything is up to date.
I tried to disable things over these 2 years but nothing changed.
I just installed Epiphany-browser on Ubuntu and the same issue. As I said it looks to me that my notebook is lacking something.

And I still can't attach pics on this website haha

I disabled and removed AdBloker

Last edited by lattimro; 04-07-2024 at 09:30 AM.
 
Old 04-07-2024, 11:14 AM   #6
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Even firefox 91 shows this site without a murmur. Does this notebook have some weird screen resolution perhaps?
 
Old 04-07-2024, 11:28 AM   #7
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Everything is up to date.
I tried to disable things over these 2 years but nothing changed.
I just installed Epiphany-browser on Ubuntu and the same issue.
Well, this is strange.


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I disabled and removed AdBloker
Again, not that I think it's the cause but just to rule it out, this netbook isn't connecting to the internet via some DNS sinkhole like a Pi-hole, is it?


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As I said it looks to me that my notebook is lacking something.
I understand why you've come to that conclusion, but I'm struggling to think of a hardware issue on your netbook that could cause this issue on a website without at least causing other problems more widely on your system.

Still, what's the output when you run dmidecode as root? Before posting the output here, remove Serial Number under System Information, Base Board Information and Chassis Information and remove UUID under System Information.
 
Old 04-07-2024, 11:37 AM   #8
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Even firefox 91 shows this site without a murmur. Does this notebook have some weird screen resolution perhaps?
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description: Notebook
product: Satellite L505 (Calpella)
vendor: TOSHIBA
version: PSLU6U-00P009

configuration: depth=32 driver=i915 latency=0 resolution=1600,1200
what can I check further?
 
Old 04-07-2024, 11:37 AM   #9
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FYI: I run Manjaro/Plasma/Wayland and tested using Firefox: no such problem.

Vivaldi, same platform, no problem.

Chromium, no problem.

Brave, no problem.

Falkon, no problem.

Dillo: never got that far, blocked

TOR browser: blocked.

How about WEATHER.COM?
 
Old 04-07-2024, 12:08 PM   #10
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FYI: I run Manjaro/Plasma/Wayland and tested using Firefox: no such problem.

Vivaldi, same platform, no problem.

Chromium, no problem.

Brave, no problem.

Falkon, no problem.

Dillo: never got that far, blocked

TOR browser: blocked.

How about WEATHER.COM?
Thanks wpeckham! I know, it's frustrating ... it is my machine related.

All good on weather.com, also the maps works well on weather.com. Hmmm ...
 
Old 04-07-2024, 12:32 PM   #11
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Check how it looks from the outside e.g. here https://webbrowsertools.com/ and try to spot a difference with other machines.
 
Old 04-07-2024, 01:47 PM   #12
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Can you reach:
Code:
curl -LI https://www.theweathernetwork.com/
Can you get the page? It does redirect.
Code:
agent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:123.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/123.0"
curl -LA "$agent" https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ -o twn.html
I tried to access that page with multiple user agents. Did not have any problems.

You may also try:
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/us?_guid_iss_=1
 
Old 04-07-2024, 02:44 PM   #13
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Can you reach:
Code:
curl -LI https://www.theweathernetwork.com/
Can you get the page? It does redirect.
Code:
agent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:123.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/123.0"
curl -LA "$agent" https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ -o twn.html
I tried to access that page with multiple user agents. Did not have any problems.

You may also try:
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/us?_guid_iss_=1
The issue described in OP is on View Radar only
 
Old 04-08-2024, 12:56 PM   #14
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The issue described in OP is on View Radar only
Forgive me, lattimro, but I did ask in my second post in this thread if this was affecting the website as a whole or just when you tried to load certain pages or features.

You did not provide this information in your initial post and you ignored my question on this matter. Do you not think it may be relevant?
 
Old 04-08-2024, 03:41 PM   #15
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Forgive me, lattimro, but I did ask in my second post in this thread if this was affecting the website as a whole or just when you tried to load certain pages or features.

You did not provide this information in your initial post and you ignored my question on this matter. Do you not think it may be relevant?
yes, this is a valid point, thanks for remember me. It is affecting only the "Radar Map" page which is not loaded. It is to bad that just with this post for some reasons I can't attach the screenshots. I never had issues before with attaching pics. The admin did not answer with a solution yet. However, I apologize for misread your question. Let me know please if that clarifies more.
 
  


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