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Old 03-07-2005, 10:48 AM   #1
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FILE browsing and XFS


Didn't know where to put this thread so I put it here

I have a dual booting machine with XP and Mandrake 10.1 Community

HDD's as follows :

hda: XP, NTFS (primary master) 40GB
hdb: NTFS (primary slave) 40GB
hdc1: /boot , ext3 (secondary master) 100MB
hdc2: / , XFS , 30 GB
hdc5: linux swap 1 GB

First I installed Mandrake with LILO on MBR...after discovering that LILO would be better of on it's own partition I reformated to the setup above.
(and removed LILO from MBR/restored MBR)

HERE IS THE STRANGE THING:

When I had Mandrake running on ext3 filesystem, things went smooth.
After reformatting/installing , this time with XFS, Konqueror says "stalled" (but don't hang) when I open large directories. They open eventually (5-15 seconds), but this happened like a bullet before when using ext3.

I am new to linux, so the reason I changed to XFS filesystem was because that was suppose to be better with large files and directories. Have I been misinformed??

Any thoughts on this appreciated!

As said: Konqueror browsing ext3: smooth.
Browsing XFS: NOT so smooth..


BTW: My definition of "large" directories is 1000++ files



Hope someone has an idea...!
 
Old 03-07-2005, 11:13 AM   #2
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use ReiserFS i say ....... and XFS is probably slow because of your computer, it was designed for high performance computers, not desktops
 
Old 03-07-2005, 08:41 PM   #3
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live and learn I see...

changed back to ext3 and everything back to running excellent...well, at least I've learned so much
 
Old 03-08-2005, 06:02 AM   #4
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XFS is designed for machine with a shitload of RAM, unless that's you (and 512MB/1GB is not shitloads) it won't be much benifit. it's fast because it uses your RAM and only reads/writes to disk when it has to. Super fast if you can support it, probably pretty average if you can't.
 
Old 03-08-2005, 10:08 PM   #5
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ah!

Well, I have 512 MB DDR RAM, so I guess that's more decent than it is loads of it


If I should build a server with 2 GB RAM ++ than I'll try XFS once more......the specs (from what I can tell) seems impressive
 
Old 03-09-2005, 06:05 AM   #6
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Yeah that probably wouldn't cut it. Here's a good description taken from the Gentoo documentation.
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XFS is a filesystem with metadata journaling which comes with a robust feature-set and is optimized for scalability. We only recommend using this filesystem on Linux systems with high-end SCSI and/or fibre channel storage and an uninterruptible power supply. Because XFS aggressively caches in-transit data in RAM, improperly designed programs (those that don't take proper precautions when writing files to disk and there are quite a few of them) can lose a good deal of data if the system goes down unexpectedly.
 
Old 03-11-2005, 11:36 PM   #7
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yes, here are the listings of FS's in order from lowest specs to highest:

- Minix (FAT/FAT32 here to) / tempfs ..... extremly limited file systems, good for small jobs tho
- EXT2/3 .... better
- JFS ...... a step up, the specs would suit most desktops
- RieserFS ....... excellent, quit scalable, fast, and uses space efficiently on the drive (with version 4, its faster, and supports plugins ... could offer encryption/compression in plugins ...version 3.6 its quite stable)
- XFS ..... only good for high end systems

i recommend RieserFS (thats because i have a grudge against EXT2/3 .. it corrupted on my 233MHz laptop, since then i used RieserFS (and Minix for small partition like /boot and floppies)) .... it works quite well if you cant afford the overhead of XFS, and the specs are way more then anything a desktop will use (even servers will have a hard time getting near its limitation) .. but the XFS specs are better, but with numbers so big on both FS's, does it really matter for most uses?
 
  


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