Does RedHat Still Deserve The Title Of 'The Linux'?

brianL · 02-20-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zssfssz

Slackware is The Oldest Linux, as in it is the longest surviving distro, its even older if you count it's parent: SLS.

Yeah. Here's an up-to-date distro time-line:
http://futurist.se/gldt/wp-content/u...1/gldt1201.svg

sycamorex · 02-20-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by brianL

I thought Slackware was THE LINUX?

but it is... I don't know what they are talking about

I'm quite sure that all those distros they mention are some derivatives of Slackware, LOL.

brianL · 02-20-2012, 04:27 PM

They're all Slackware wannabes. What other distro has aliens and goblins on its team? Not to mention a workman and a punk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware#Development_team

Zssfssz · 02-20-2012, 06:09 PM

Here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../8/8c/Gldt.svg
A windows machine will not open this file correctly without a full version of photoshop, otherwise your covered.
And as you can see Debian has the biggest tree. Ohh linspire how I miss you...
Slackware hAs it's advantages (Stability), Debian had Package MAnagement, RedHat has Enterpriseness.
My favorite is Ubuntu (I LIKE Unity) because It Doesnt throw a hissy-fit about my wireless card, And I use Debian for anything that takes plain command line.
Also if this was based on the number of Aunt Tillies (World Domination 201) we got standing behind us now, it would be Ubuntu hands down. Now I'll go and do a slackware vs openbsd thread if you want or/and we could get back to the question.

sundialsvcs · 02-20-2012, 06:56 PM

Red Hat took a very corporate approach to Linux, and they have done quite well with it because they do provide a subscription-based support service that works very well. Made a tidy sum off that stock over the years.

cascade9 · 02-21-2012, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by johnsfine

I don't understand the point of Red Hat for a Desktop. Their focus is on servers.

But you've already given 2 reasons to use Red Hat on the desktop-

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Originally Posted by johnsfine

Fedora can be a very nice desktop distribution, but also can be a bit bleeding edge.

Agreed, and its one reason why I wouldnt use Fedora as a desktop OS in many, if not all major businesses.

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Originally Posted by johnsfine

Some companies think that Sarbanes–Oxley and/or other government rules mean a company should not depend on a major software product (such as an OS) unless they are PAYING a supplier to be responsible for that product.

Theres other reasons, the best of which is that if the I.T. department at the business wants a single OS for server and desktop use, Red Hat is IMO one of the obvious choices. It may not seem to be worth it in a lot of cost/benefits analysis, it would depend on a lot of factors. For some businesses, and maybe even for private use in some situations that analysis would make Red Hat on the desktop an obvious choice.

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD

Oh, I forgot a reason why Ubuntu can't be "The Linux": If they would be they would have to mention Linux at least once on their website.

LOL. Though they actually do mention linux on the site, doing asearch for it (from the 'search' box on the site) hit #1 is link to a german "Gratis-Assessment", hits #2-#6 (plus more further down) is for "Linux Foundation X.X root hub", and most amusing of all, hit #7 is for "Canonical Launches Latest Ubuntu Desktop 7.04".

So while its not technically true they dont mention 'linux', it goes to show how much canonical dont mention linux.

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Originally Posted by Zssfssz

Also read this close quote from World Domination 201:
RedHat ripped mp3 playback and slunked off into the server market.

'Close quote'...are you not a native english speaker? That is 'paraphrasing'. Its not a quote at all.

Here is how you quote, and link people to an article. If you are going to keep mentioning 'World Domination 201' you really should link people to what you are talking about. Its impolite not to.

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It's also hard to forget that when the call went out for a big company to stand up and fight for DeCSS and open-source 3D drivers, the leading commercial Linux distributor (Red Hat) yanked MP3 playback support from its distro and slunk off into the server market.

http://catb.org/~esr/writings/world-...ation-201.html

I can see why Eric S. Raymond and Rob Landley had a shot at Red Hat over that...but I can also see why Red Hat took the action they did. 'Fighting' DeCSS would have been a bad business decision IMO, even if in many ways it would have been the right thing to do.

BTW, that "the leading commercial Linux distributor (Red Hat)" bit is the closest the 'World Domination 201' comes to calling Red Hat "the linux".

Ohh, and canonical dont provide out-of-the-box MP3 support either......

Zssfssz · 02-21-2012, 10:07 AM

World Domination 201,here, is a long paper on the transitions of computers and what linux needs in order capture the desktop, it is a little dated (written in 2006), I also ment close as in near. It gets its name from some of Linus' old talks called 'World Domination 101'.
I really need to reread it...
Please note that, except in certin cases, I type everythin with my iPod, it is small and has two extra international keyboards on it (why did my dad install those?), I will make typos, and autocorrect on it assumes I'm not a computer geek and goes to the nearest thing so I sometimes get strange replacement words. Sorry...