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Old 05-15-2014, 09:16 PM   #1
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Ahh..you crazy kids and your Linux.Cut your hair and get a job.


I guess i have gotten to old for Linux.I just dont have the patience for Linux anymore.Which Is odd because Linux has gotten more user friendly since I first started messing with it.
When I first tried Linux it was around 2002 or so. I had dial up back then so I couldnt download any distros. So I would buy them off Ebay. Started with Mandrake.Then Slackware,Gentoo,RedHat.

I was in my 20's and setting there for hours trying to figure out hot to get such and such to work was like a challenge to me.Like I said guess Im getting to old because what was once a challenge to over come is now just down right annoying to me today.

Then got broadband in 2005 and over the years have tried just about every mainstream Linux always coming back to Debian.

Havent used Debain since last year.Decided to come back about 3-4 days ago.Had like 4 issues which I solved. Was a little annoyed but not "through this crap In the corner" annoyed.
Latest problem is Chrome crashing X and only fix I have found was to disable Chrome hardware acceleration.
Thats when I realized Im just not into Linux that much anymore.
Yeah sure windows has problems but they are usually solved with a driver update or you didnt have the latest Netframework or something.At most its might involve going into registry to edit something.

Linux is cool.Its like being 18 and having a cool 1969 Mustang that breaks down every other week and you have to fix it.
Today..I just dont have the patience to be fixing Linux all the time and tracking down problems and solutions.
 
Old 05-15-2014, 09:20 PM   #2
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Alrighty Then.
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:14 PM   #3
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After a dozen years experience, including Gentoo and Slackware, one would figure few things would be too onerous for you to configure, especially with a system as easy to configure as Debian.
 
Old 05-15-2014, 11:06 PM   #4
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"And just who are you callin' a 'kid,' kid?!?!" (koff, koff ...)

Seriously, though ... you actually won't "get barbequed" for expressing opinions like that. You do, in fact, bring up many quite-valid points ... all of which just happen to demonstrate how good the people who struggle to tame this technology (Microsoft .. Apple .. "distro" writers) are at the very-crazy thing that they struggle every day to do. ("They make it look easy, all of them," even though this is "outrageously difficult." And yes, you betcha, I just praised Redmond. And Cupertino.)

"Is Linux right for you?" He*l, only you can decide. And, whatever you decide is Valid. For you. Period. So there. No objections. At all.

However, I would encourage you not to give up on Linux quite yet. Install a virtual-machine monitor (splurge ... a commercial one ...) on your existing war-horse, and give this technology a serious try. At first, you will feel that you are "taking a sip from the fire-hose." H-o-w-e-v-e-r ... if you do elect to persevere, I do promise you that it will be worth it.

Full disclosure ... I proudly hearken from the now-dying days when computers were serious fun, (that no one else, at the time, could fully understand ...), "and so, we did it anyway." Linux will still bring you that. (And, by doing so, it will cast an entirely-different light upon what both Microsoft and Apple have been doing for all these years.)

And so I say to thee ... (koff, koff) ... "dive in, kid!" Did you really put on that-there swim suit to keep it dry?!?! Does the Badge of Honor h-a-c-k-e-r mean anything to you, or have you been "assimilated?"

Oh dear, I seem to have dropped my gauntlet ... would you kindly pick it up for me?

C'mon in ... the water's fine ...

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Old 05-16-2014, 12:26 AM   #5
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After a dozen years experience, including Gentoo and Slackware, one would figure few things would be too onerous for you to configure, especially with a system as easy to configure as Debian.
It doesnt have anything to do with "easy to configure" it has to do with I dont feel like spending time hunting down how to fix a issue(s) anymore. I dont have anyhting to prove anymore.That Im smarter than the average windows user becasue I can use Linux.
If debian is so easy to configure you tell me how to fix Chrome crashing X.Not a temp fix like I had to do which is disable hardware accleration. Heres my post about it.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-x-4175505081/
 
Old 05-16-2014, 02:20 AM   #6
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Linux is cool.Its like being 18 and having a cool 1969 Mustang that breaks down every other week and you have to fix it.
Today..I just dont have the patience to be fixing Linux all the time and tracking down problems and solutions.
Because you're another kind of person, 40 years old, minivan, wife and kids
Joking apart, I can understand you but using Linux is not mandatory. If despite your dedication, your tests, this forum, you have always some problems with your distro and your time (or your patience) flies away, then you shouldn't use it.
Or better, you can run it on a virtual machine, as said by sundialsvcs.
Take care

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Old 05-16-2014, 04:45 AM   #7
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You know what they say...

Once you go Mac, you'll never go back!
 
Old 05-16-2014, 05:09 AM   #8
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If debian is so easy to configure you tell me how to fix Chrome crashing X.Not a temp fix like I had to do which is disable hardware accleration.
Are you sure it is a problem with the system? There are quite a few Debian users using Google's browser (why I do not know) without it crashing X.
From that thread:
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That gets rid of X crash's but then when I watch Youtube videos after a bit sound gets all crackly. Doesnt happen in Iceweasel.
Again, looks like a Chrome issue. And yes, configuration is a little more involved with Testing.
 
Old 05-16-2014, 06:15 AM   #9
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If you do not know what is wrong with Windows, keep using it.
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Yeah sure windows has problems but they are usually solved with a driver update or you didnt have the latest Netframework or something.At most its might involve going into registry to edit something.
If only
 
Old 05-16-2014, 06:28 AM   #10
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"Of course, what you say about not wanting to deal with [hardware] issues anymore is entirely true," he said, typing furiously on his Macbook Pro ...

You will quickly learn far more about the "guts" of your computer than you ever otherwise could have learned ... and, yes, you will run into the law of Diminishing Returns, a.k.a. "I just donwanna with this, anymore!"

So you go buy a Mac, put a case-sensitive filesystem on it, and ... there you go. Unless one day you do need to configure a Linux server, which you will probably do exactly once and then "clone" onto identical copies of hardware.

It's worth doing ... I'm glad I did it ... I'm glad that I basically don't have to do that anymore. Instead, I hire people who do.
 
Old 05-16-2014, 06:42 AM   #11
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Honestly, my predominant reason for using linux is probably that im lazy. I have been using the same interface (not a DE) for the past 10 years or so and what i look for in a linux distro is that you install it and forget it. If you think using windows will banish 3rd party incompatibilities i wish you luck, but i think you are going to be dissapointed.
 
Old 05-16-2014, 06:49 AM   #12
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solved with a driver update
LOL Or, $lowed down and more likely made more in$ecure? Way back when I had winblow$ (couldn't try a different one) I had problem$ that didn't get fixed not to mention the chain$! $ave kids, don't buy a $mac.

Browser, browser, browser, browser, browser, browser,,,

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Old 05-16-2014, 07:59 AM   #13
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Hmm. Great points and valid as before has been stated.

I used chrome ages ago, not on debian, but it worked. But do you really want to be using chrome coming from big brother, sure firefox is heading down the tubes too, but at least it is not a nightmare to get going.

Hopefully iceweasel gets rid of that jingles too.

But don't worry mate, i understand. So my solution was just stop fighting and putting money into the pockets of nvidea and amd.

They want me to buy the latest and greatest, then they can spend some money on getting their drivers going.

Great tag for your thread topic!!!

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Old 05-16-2014, 08:26 AM   #14
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I've always found it easier to diagnose problems in Linux compared to Windows.
 
Old 05-16-2014, 08:50 AM   #15
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I've always found it easier to diagnose problems in Linux compared to Windows.
I agree for server 100%
Desktop... 50/50

Different things and tastes but some people have different needs, windows and linux are two different beasts
 
  


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