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Old 06-29-2011, 07:53 AM   #1
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Status Quo of Linux Gaming


Hi,

well this thread can be summarized in 3 questions:

what is the current situation regarding Gaming on Linux?

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How can the developers/community get more games to Linux?

and

what is the feasibility of developing a standard open source gaming platform that shifts game development from the programming aspect to simply focus on design (levels , scenario , graphics , sounds , events ..etc)

i'm talking mainly about Ogre3d and related projects

hope that my questions are clear

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Old 06-29-2011, 07:34 PM   #2
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I've been meaning to make a blog post about this for a while, but here's my story.

I built a modest gaming computer over Christmas with the intention of spending as much time in Linux as I could. I left a 200 gig partition blank with the intention of installing Windows if I ever couldn't get something I -really- wanted working in Linux/Wine.

Here I am about six months later with a blank partition and no Windows in sight. I regularly play Starcraft 2, Rift, The Witcher, WoW, Counter Strike: Source, Left 4 Dead 2, Fall Out New Vegas and other in Wine/Crossover Games with only minor issues. It's not for everyone obviously, but it's doable.

Regarding native games, there are a few really excellent Indie games. Trine, Machinarium, Braid, HoN, Amnesia, Penumbra etc. I've had more fun with these games than I've had with major releases like LA Noire and Modern Warfare.

What can you do to help? Well, keep buying games! Buy all the indie releases with Linux clients. Buy the humble bundles. Get on the Starcraft forums and write guides to get it working in Wine. Make a bunch of noise to let them know your there.

Keep having fun
 
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:39 AM   #3
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What can you do to help? Well, keep buying games! Buy all the indie releases with Linux clients. Buy the humble bundles. Get on the Starcraft forums and write guides to get it working in Wine. Make a bunch of noise to let them know your there.

Keep having fun
aha , nice story !

actually i was thinking about something more engaging or progressive such as making an open source platform for games , something similar to a web browser or interpreter that does 2 things:

1) shifts the programming burden from the gaming developers to this shared consolidated platform .
2) unleashing an open source standard that is platform independent.

btw i'm not talking about graphic or physics engine such as Ogre3d or ODE but i'm talking about a complete gaming solution/platform which can interpret scripts written in a very simplistic syntax (say something JS for instance)

any thoughts?

cheers
 
Old 07-04-2011, 11:10 AM   #4
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what is the current situation regarding Gaming on Linux?
Better than you'd think:

http://linuxgamingnews.org/

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How can the developers/community get more games to Linux?
Make a point of buying Linux games.

Pay generously for each Humble Bundle.

We need more developers bragging about how much money they made from their Linux games:

http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/0...-Sales-Numbers

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what is the feasibility of developing a standard open source gaming platform that shifts game development from the programming aspect to simply focus on design (levels , scenario , graphics , sounds , events ..etc)
Many already exist. Ren'py and Inform 7 are two examples.

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Old 07-05-2011, 10:51 AM   #5
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Many already exist. Ren'py and Inform 7 are two examples.
and do they work? i mean are they feasible/pratical ?
is anybody using them? (i mean gaming studios)

cheers
 
Old 07-05-2011, 12:20 PM   #6
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and do they work? i mean are they feasible/pratical ?
is anybody using them? (i mean gaming studios)
Yes they work, they are feasible, and they are practical -- for the kinds of games they are designed for. As for the question of whether they're being used, well, do a search. The answer is yes, and many of the (free) games written with them were both very ambitious and very good.

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Old 07-06-2011, 01:06 PM   #7
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well, do a search.
Fine then,

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Ren'Py is a visual novel engine that helps you use words, images, and sounds to tell stories with the computer. These can be both visual novels and life simulation games. The easy to learn script language allows you to efficiently write large visual novels, while its Python scripting is enough for complex simulation games.
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Inform is a design system for interactive fiction based on natural language.
seriously , is that it?

okay , i see where this is going , probably to replace flash games and it would definitely suit dialog/puzzle-based games like "The Monkey Island Series" (check it out)

anyways i digress,

what i'm talking about is beyond this stuff , i'm talking about a game engine with 3D capabilities, complete mechanical physics simulation (and particle physics for explosions and smoke) , support XML-enabled config files to develop scenes and levels , remote session support using things like xml-rpc for multi/online player , perhaps even an AI module to streamline NPC's , including of course third party modules extensibility such as foreign language binding .... and much much more!

is there anything like that?
actually i've a full picture in my head regarding such a project but i wanna make sure if it hasn't been done before.

btw , i'm fully aware of Ogre3d , OpenSceneGraph as well as ODE.

cheers

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Old 07-06-2011, 01:12 PM   #8
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Unity will be on Linux soon, and the Monocle Engine (which is being developed by the same guy who wrote Aquaria) is in development.

There's also PyGame. And the Blender game engine.

So in other words, if you're planning to write your game engine then you have no competition now and can expect very little competition in the future.

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Old 07-06-2011, 06:37 PM   #9
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There are a couple of proprietary game engines coming up that should be interesting. Namely Unigine and the Id tech 5 engine.

It'll be interesting to see if any big games come out of these..
 
Old 07-08-2011, 06:53 PM   #10
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So in other words, if you're planning to write your game engine then you have no competition now and can expect very little competition in the future.
is that a sarcastic statement ?
 
Old 07-08-2011, 06:59 PM   #11
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Not it's not. Not a single one of the examples I mentioned were anything like what you said you wanted to create.

(yes, I realize I'd failed to make that clear).

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Old 07-08-2011, 07:41 PM   #12
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Not it's not. Not a single one of the examples I mentioned were anything like what you said you wanted to create.

(yes, I realize I'd failed to make that clear).
Alright then

are you a programmer of any sort? if so are you interested in joining my upcoming project ?

cheers
 
Old 07-08-2011, 08:18 PM   #13
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Alright then

are you a programmer of any sort? if so are you interested in joining my upcoming project ?

cheers
I am indeed a programmer. Your project sounds a bit too big in scope for me though :P.
 
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if so are you interested in joining my upcoming project ?
May I ask how many upcoming projects you have? From your other threads I know that you also are planning to develop a new distribution, don't you think that two projects of that size are too much for one person?
 
Old 07-09-2011, 06:12 AM   #15
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May I ask how many upcoming projects you have? From your other threads I know that you also are planning to develop a new distribution, don't you think that two projects of that size are too much for one person?
well actually there is a third one also , called NiteCo lol (see the sig below)
but of course i'm not gonna do everything all myself , which is why i'm open sourcing this.

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I am indeed a programmer. Your project sounds a bit too big in scope for me though :P
okay , yes it's big (on doubt on that) but we aren't gonna be alone on this , big projects tend to attract big devs too (big as in lots of).
btw once i found interested devs in any of those projects i will be setting up a development platform using open source software to become something like sourceforce or google code.

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