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Old 02-09-2004, 06:28 PM   #1
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Max Payne 2 and WineX


Hey folks.

I recently got WineX and I also recently bought Max Payne 2. It all-around runs horribly, and I am blaming this on my current video card (a Radeon 8500 64MB) - I am told that WineX does not have good support under ATI chipsets and I am also wondering if this would be the reason that at a certain point in the game, you have to escape an exploding building - the level runs quite slow and choppy because it just requires a lot of proc power. Anyways, it always freezes at the same part, right before a cutscene. The same place at the same time.

help is greatly appreciated!
 
Old 02-09-2004, 06:48 PM   #2
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Hmm. Although it's been said before, Wine or WineX is not Windows. A lot of things just won't work correctly in Wine/WineX, or will not work correctly until configured manually.

If you dual-boot into Windows, I suggest trying to play it in that until a website like frankscorner.org posts up a how-to to get a certain program or game, like yours, to function correctly in Wine or WineX. Alternatively, you can wait until the release of WineX 3.3, which is rumored to have full DirectX 9 support and more game compatibility.

Until then, however, I still strongly suggest running it in Windows, if possible.
 
Old 02-09-2004, 07:04 PM   #3
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Thanks for the help. I guess I will just have to wait - no biggie, but it's a shame that it is posted as a 4 on the webiste.
 
Old 02-09-2004, 07:15 PM   #4
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i had the same problem with my radeon 9000. its ati's fault, with their lousy drivers. solution? i bought an nvidia card, and it runs perfectly. or you could try the xig drivers, but those cost money.
 
Old 02-09-2004, 07:39 PM   #5
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I was thinking about doing that. I really could use a graphics card upgrade anyway.

Thanks for the help. As soon as I gather the money, then that will be the first upgrade I will get!

How does the GeForce FX-5700 sound?
 
Old 02-09-2004, 07:58 PM   #6
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i have a geforce fx 5700 ultra, and everything is beautiful. i bet DooM3 will run lovely for you and me
 
Old 02-09-2004, 11:04 PM   #7
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nVidia Cards are supported better under WineX. the ATI cards are still problematic. My laptop uses a Radeon 7500 chipset, while my desktop uses a GeForce4 MX. The desktop machine rocks for OpenGL games under WineX. The laptop won't even run Neverwinter Nights as a native without skipping horribly (totally unplayable).

Get an nVidia card if you want good Linux OpenGL performance. ATI Linux support is just passable.
 
Old 02-10-2004, 03:15 PM   #8
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i think NWN skips because youre using DRI, jasep. just a thought.
 
Old 02-15-2004, 01:25 AM   #9
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Just because you couldnt figure out how to get an ATI to work doesnt mean you are allowed to call their drivers crappy. You sold out and bought an NVidia card so right away I can tell you didnt spend any time on it. I glx @ ~4500 with a Radeon 9600pro and NVidia has never come close to that. Do NOT flame a company until you have actually tried to work with their products.
 
Old 02-15-2004, 10:14 AM   #10
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Chao X: We shouldn't have to work with their products. It should be an easy installation. I have plenty of knowledge with Linux, and I have gotten my drivers to work, but they are definitely not good enough. I get better scores than that in glxgears, but I still get the same bad performance in REAL games.

I'm sorry, but glxgears is a terrible benchmarking tool. The only way to find out how well your graphics card performs in linux is to play some games on it (native ones, btw) and see your FPS.

I have tried for too long, Chao X - I simply cannot get good enough support from WineX to play on my Radeon 8500, and I can't get good enough framerates on ALL of my games - I've had it with crappy drivers. My GeForce FX 5700 256mb should be here tomorrow, and I am happy that I will be able to have drivers that actually work and take the hardware to its full potential.
 
Old 02-15-2004, 08:03 PM   #11
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ATI's drivers only support the later incarnations of the Radeon chipsets, not the 7500 series. So I am limited to DRI for 3D support. nVidia supports ALL their chipsets (even the lowly old pre-GeForce2 chipsets). If my laptop had a Radeon 9600 chipset in it, I'd have 9600 frames per second too... But, alas, it's difficult to swap-out the video chipset on a laptop.

I have a question though,... How did I "sell out" by geting an nVidia card for my desktop machine??? Just curious. I just figured I'd get a card that had decent 1st party driver support rather than have to deal with the (ingenious, but... ) lackluster performance of reverse engineered open source DRI drivers.

And by the way,... I have manually edited modelines in my XF86Config files for my various machines... (in VI by the way, non-graphcal) which I'm sure many other's haven't. So please watch what you say about spending time on things...

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Just because you couldnt figure out how to get an ATI to work doesnt mean you are allowed to call their drivers crappy. You sold out and bought an NVidia card so right away I can tell you didnt spend any time on it. I glx @ ~4500 with a Radeon 9600pro and NVidia has never come close to that. Do NOT flame a company until you have actually tried to work with their products.
 
Old 02-16-2004, 08:34 PM   #12
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Just because you couldnt figure out how to get an ATI to work doesnt mean you are allowed to call their drivers crappy. You sold out and bought an NVidia card so right away I can tell you didnt spend any time on it. I glx @ ~4500 with a Radeon 9600pro and NVidia has never come close to that. Do NOT flame a company until you have actually tried to work with their products.
were you talking to me? i had a radeon 9000, i tried many things to get the drivers working (theres a defect in the installation, the configuration misdetects the pci/agp slot the card is on), and after a while, i got them working, but they just didnt cooperate. i DID spend time on it. for example, when i tried to run GTA3 under winex on my ati card with their drivers, i got an error about ATI FGLRXDRI. nuts. i dont get that with nvidia. so maybhe YOU shouldnt flame people if you dont know whether or not they have put the time into their hardware. i tried numerous things, and none worked, so i took an option. i dont like to pay just to get my hardware working (the XiG drivers !?!), so i thought an upgrade was nessesary. thats my story. just run a few apps (escpecially under winex) and take a comparison. youll see what i mean.

PS: sold out right away?! i had the thing for 6 months before i got the geforce!
 
  


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