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Old 01-18-2014, 03:12 PM   #1
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recommendation for a single board pc attached to a tv for webbrowser and youtube?


hello,
what single board PCs should I buy?.. next week I will have a look at a colleague odroid-xu (hardnkernel) but I would like to know from the forum here: what is your recommendation for a single board PC (LINUX!) in order to connect it to my samsung smart tv (not so smart that TV; it has no webbrowser, so, I need to buy a PC for having a webbrowser). That single board PC must be
- with webbrowser
- for looking a video streams ("Bundesliga") of livetv
- for looking at youtube ("BVB" video.. what else.. ;-)
- with bluetooth (for having a keyboard and mouse bluetooth)
I dont have much space around the TV, so, it must be small (I will stick it on the back side of the TV), and it must be cheap (it can be more expensive than my raspberryPI; but not much more expensive).
Thanks for any suggestions.

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Old 01-18-2014, 03:37 PM   #2
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utilite pro?

Although a cubox-i might be cheaper with tv-ish extras like an IrDA port. Other options of course with the beablebone, cubieboard, and other haswell type things for x86 compatibility.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 10:46 AM   #3
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thanks for the utilite proposal. Did you personally experience the function on it? (the add-on of VAT and transport dont make it cheap for import to Europe).
Or perhaps
- odroid xu ?
- Zotac ZBOXNANO-ID62-BE Desktop-PC (Intel Celeron 1007U, 1,5GHz, Intel HD) ?

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Old 03-02-2014, 11:21 AM   #4
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The function on it is the same i.MX6 board and arm chips that comes with other devices like the cubox. The advantage of the utilite over the cubox is dual nics so it has an after life per say as a beefy router that can do other things. Although not really worth the 2x's price tag. And rockchip just came out with a beefier quad core RK3288 chipset. Hopefully devices that use it will hit the market sometime this year.
 
Old 03-24-2014, 04:06 PM   #5
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"raspberry pi" and raspbian? forget it. this is not for a full desktop experience (slow browser, no youtube).
"odroid xu" and xubuntu 13.10? not bad. I will most likely stay with it.
 
Old 03-24-2014, 04:28 PM   #6
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After messing around with the various single board's out there, and raspbmc, openelec and the like,.. i finally went with http://shopap.lenovo.com/au/en/deskt...inys/m73-tiny/ and windows 7. Sorry, im a hardcore linux guy, but i can't beat the interoperability and performance of 7 and my Xbox, with an i5 computer + ssd to boot.
 
Old 03-24-2014, 04:45 PM   #7
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If one of your main concerns is Youtube and possibly other Flash videos I wouldn't recommend to go for an ARM CPU at all, since still no reliable alternative for Adobe's Flashplayer exists and it is not available for ARM. You may be better off buying a small Atom (make sure NOT to go for one with PowerVR graphics) or better an AMD APU system, so that you have the advantages of having an x86 CPU, in case of the AMD APU even with VDPAU video acceleration.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:12 PM   #8
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If one of your main concerns is Youtube and possibly other Flash videos I wouldn't recommend to go for an ARM CPU at all, since still no reliable alternative for Adobe's Flashplayer exists and it is not available for ARM. You may be better off buying a small Atom (make sure NOT to go for one with PowerVR graphics) or better an AMD APU system, so that you have the advantages of having an x86 CPU, in case of the AMD APU even with VDPAU video acceleration.
do you have an example like my "odroid xu" ?
- RAM > 1GB
- boot from SD or USB
- no HDD
- bluetooth
- video / sound output
- few USB ports
- WLAN (&LAN connection)
for approx. 200$ ?
 
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do you have an example like my "odroid xu" ?
- RAM > 1GB
- boot from SD or USB
- no HDD
- bluetooth
- video / sound output
- few USB ports
- WLAN (&LAN connection)
for approx. 200$ ?
The Zotac ZBOX nano XS should be around that limit, but you will have to add RAM. The Gigabyte Brix is a bit more expensive. An Atom system like the Giada I35G-WM531 may also be worth a look.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 05:57 PM   #10
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Don't own one but would be nice to have.

http://linuxgizmos.com/tiny-quad-cor...-ships-for-69/

Quote:
NanoPC launched a $69 mini-PC and $67 SBC based on a quad-core Samsung Exynos4412 SoC, with SD, HDMI, USB, camera, and Ethernet, and running Linux and Android.

The NanoPC-T1 is supported with source code for Linux + Qt, Ubuntu Linux 12.04, and Android 4.2.2, both onsite and on a DVD. Full hardware schematics are said to be coming, and there’s already considerable documentation, as well as forums.
Specifications listed for the NanoPC-T1 include:

Processor — Samsung Exynos 4412 (4x Cortex-A9 cores @ 1.5GHz); Mali-400 GPU (4 core cpu)
Memory:
1GB DDR3 RAM (32-bit)
4GB eMMC flash
SD slot
Display — HDMI 1.4 out port (up to 1920 x 1080 pixels); LCD TFT interface, supporting RGB888 mode, LVDS adapter and capacitive and resistive touchscreens
Wireless — optional 3G WCDMA, WiFi, and Bluetooth expansion modules
Networking — 10/100 Ethernet port
Other I/O:
2x USB 2.0 host ports
Micro-USB OTG port
3.5mm audio in/out jack
CMOS camera interface
MIPI interface (supports HD)
4 x TTL UARTs
2x digital sensor inputs
GPIO1 — UART, SPI, I2C, 20x GPIOs, power signals, etc.
GPIO2 — UART, 2x GPIOs, SDIO, USB 2.0 host
Other features — RTC battery; 2x user buttons; 2x LEDs; AT88SC0104C-SH encryption chip
Power — DC 5V/2A input
Weight — 50 g (SBC)
Dimensions — 100 x 60mm (SBC)
Operating systems — Linux + Qt; Ubuntu Linux 12.04; Android 4.2.2
 
Old 03-27-2014, 05:53 AM   #11
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Don't own one but would be nice to have.

http://linuxgizmos.com/tiny-quad-cor...-ships-for-69/
Indeed a nice system, but still ARM, so not viable for the OP's purpose.
 
Old 04-02-2014, 11:24 AM   #12
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Youtube has an html5 option (youtube.com/html5). It's not the default, but it seems to work. On my x86 system I find myself using hexedit on the flash plugin to falsely report a windows version to get sites to use it. Sad but true. 11.2 for linux versus 12.0 for windows. Fortunately more and more things (besides adobe) are moving away from flash.

I've been looking at some of the lower power x86 options too. RAM sticks and pci(e) slots have their perks. We've only recently got arm boards with SATA ports. And now mips seems to be gearing up to compete and I wish them well.
 
Old 04-02-2014, 11:32 AM   #13
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i would take a look at a raspberry-pi with xbmc.

sorry i just read your response #5.
 
  


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