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Old 06-29-2004, 07:35 AM   #1
skunkcabbage
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Sound, VIA and SuSE


Hi,

I have a relatively simple question. When my SuSE box starts I see 3 instances of via82xx initiated - and consequently no sound from my machine. I guess this is due to some duplication in a configuration file being read by /etc/init.d/alsasound - but which one? How should I go about fixing this?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Cheers, Jon.

Here are the output from lsmod and lspci:

lsmod:
Module Size Used by
snd_via82xx 25380 1
snd_pcm 97032 2 snd_via82xx
snd_timer 25860 1 snd_pcm
snd_ac97_codec 62468 1 snd_via82xx
snd_mpu401_uart 8064 1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi 25508 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 8456 1 snd_rawmidi
vfat 14208 0
fat 43584 1 vfat
udf 85380 0
nvidia 2070120 12
edd 9368 0
joydev 10304 0
sg 35616 0
st 39068 0
sr_mod 16292 0
nvram 8456 0
usbserial 29040 0
parport_pc 35520 1
lp 11044 0
parport 37832 2 parport_pc,lp
thermal 12680 0
hid 40896 0
snd_page_alloc 11528 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
gameport 4736 1 snd_via82xx
processor 16680 1 thermal
snd 61444 10 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_ac97_codec,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
fan 4228 0
soundcore 9056 1 snd
button 6416 0
battery 8836 0
ac 4996 0
via_agp 8832 1
agpgart 30888 2 via_agp
via_rhine 20104 0
mii 5248 1 via_rhine
uhci_hcd 29200 0
ipt_TCPMSS 4480 1
ipt_TOS 2688 9
ipt_state 2176 62
ipt_LOG 5760 56
usbcore 103516 5 usbserial,hid,uhci_hcd
evdev 9856 0
ip6t_LOG 5632 2
ip6t_REJECT 7296 3
ip6table_mangle 2816 0
ipt_REJECT 6656 3
iptable_mangle 3072 1
iptable_filter 2944 1
ip_nat_ftp 4848 0
iptable_nat 22060 1 ip_nat_ftp
ip_conntrack_ftp 72112 1 ip_nat_ftp
ip_conntrack 31280 4 ipt_state,ip_nat_ftp,iptable_nat,ip_conntrack_ftp
ip_tables 17280 8 ipt_TCPMSS,ipt_TOS,ipt_state,ipt_LOG,ipt_REJECT,iptable_mangle,iptable_filter,iptable_nat
ip6table_filter 2816 1
ip6_tables 18704 4 ip6t_LOG,ip6t_REJECT,ip6table_mangle,ip6table_filter
ipv6 236800 16 ip6t_REJECT
ide_cd 36740 0
cdrom 36764 2 sr_mod,ide_cd
subfs 7424 5
dm_mod 50300 0
sd_mod 20224 0
ext3 108840 7
jbd 59812 1 ext3
sata_via 7044 0
libata 38016 1 sata_via,[permanent]
scsi_mod 108748 5 sg,st,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata

lspci:
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 80)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3149 (rev 80)
0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 81)
0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 81)
0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 81)
0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 81)
0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3227
0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
 
Old 06-30-2004, 07:29 AM   #2
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Wink

Hello, I had the same problem on my machine too, I have via8235 and suse 9.1. The sound card was configured, but no sound output. But I have fixed it last night following the instruction given on

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc...module=via82xx

after running modprobe. I then restarted my machine, and open Kmixer, in the advanced mod, I turned on PCM, and it works. I can even listen to the radio online now.

I thought this might help you, but don't ask me if there is any other problems as I am not a linux expert. :-)
 
Old 06-30-2004, 09:54 AM   #3
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no joy

Thanks for the suggestion yangel88

However, I can't even get alsa to compile on a fully patched clean installation. I have downloaded the latest version (1.0.5) and attempted to follow the instructions on the alsa-sound page, to no avail. I have the relevant kernel sources installed - is there some gotcha that I've missed?

Any help much appreciated.

Cheers, Jon.
 
Old 06-30-2004, 02:27 PM   #4
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I have a Via 8235 soundcard and had some troubles with it, the way I got mine to work was to use YaST to set it up and in the options set it so that DXS channels were disabled, now my sound is crystal clear.
 
Old 07-01-2004, 04:08 AM   #5
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Yeh, I have done the same thing dave_starsky, using yast to install the sound card first. Then when I typed "modinfo soundcore", I have output. I didn't try to compile the source at all. Maybe give that a try and see, good luck.
 
Old 07-02-2004, 05:16 AM   #6
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----*SOLVED*-----

Hi,

Right after a lot of head scratching, frustration at being unable to compile the 2.6.5-75 kernel without the ALSA driver built in - so I could then attempt to compile ALSA 1.0.5 .........I finally have the bloody obvious solution.

Sound stopped working when SuSE's online updater installed the bug fixed kernel 2.6.5-75, so it's broken right? Well sort of, if you add "pci=noacpi" to the boot command, then sound miraculously springs back in to life. This is consistent with my observation that when sound was screwed, it would start to play a sample then immediately get stuck playing a single note indefinitely.....unless I moved my USB mouse around - which allowed the sample to play out.

So IRQ problem right? The VIA 8235 sound chip was on IRQ11 as was one of the UHCI USB controllers - and whilst I thought kernel 2.6.x was going to be much better at acpi stuff, it aint - or at least it isn't in the kernel SuSE chucked out. So if you take IRQ routing out of acpi's hands things will be back to normal.

I have an identical machine, that I didn't allow SuSE to patch to the latest recommended kernel - and sound works fine. So to repeat, add: pci=noacpi (and possibly) noapic
to the boot command line (type it into the box at the bottom of the SuSE splash screen before pressing return) and off you go.

Good luck

Jon.
 
Old 08-26-2004, 09:09 AM   #7
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why haven't suse fixed this yet?

Hi,

Just reinstalled SuSE 9.1 from scratch on one of my machines, and sound still doesn't work. It seems a bit stupid to be using a 2.6 kernel when one of the fundamental things going for it was supposed to be the great ACPI support. I did report this as a bug to SuSE and they never got back to me, things had better improve......

Follow up to previous email: you don't have to type pci=noacpi in each time, just edit menu.lst in /boot/grub to include the pci=noacpi in the linux load line.

Cheers,

Jon.
 
  


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