Install the mp3 support here: http://staff.xmms.org/priv/redhat8/

Also you can add the console to the Pannel by right clicking the panel, and selecting Add To Pannel. Search for the console and the icon will appear on the Pannel. You can also remove icons from the Pannel.

slack...

they weren't kidding...

mandrake 9 let me down, redhat 7.3 wasn't fantastic, redhat 8I never fully succeeded to download, debian was taking too long for me, suse wasn't cooperating, gentoo livecd ran UT2K3 demo very nicely but didn't hurry to start downloading stuff... didn't find the stupid Pegasus USB NIC. always problems with that USB module.

except for slack. my only complaints include certain libraries occasionally not appearing at compile-time, also erasure of config files during pkgtool upgrades of things like KDE 3.x, and Dropline GNOME 2.0 destroyed all my X sessions. Plus it likes to remove gdm and make metacity the default wm, theme control panel never worked, things like that... looking into Ximian.

I'll be building the whole thing (slackware-current) from source myself soon, for i686 and speed... getting tired of binaries, especially i386 binaries. No offense, linuxpackages.net

I'm almost sick of RH8. I liked 7.1, and would have stayed, but getting the ATI FireGL packages to work was a PITA. If they even worked. So I grabbed 8.


Now how do I turn of the syrupy GUI and get back to a more normal looking gnome theme

And where the hell is the PPP dialer? I have to go to network conf. and activeate my dialup! And the terminal!....

Sigh...

You can get ``consoles'' by right-clicking on the root window. Then select ``New Terminal''. Is that what you're looking for? It is a fairly simple matter to add an icon to the panel that can give you that one-click character interface to the system that we all love. (I sort of like the right-click method... reminds me of Enlightenment menus.)

Don't like the GUI? Then don't boot into level 5.

Don't like Gnome or KDE? Well, there's probably two dozen other window managers out there.

If I have any complaint about RH8.0 it's the menus. (I want to change them and haven't figured out how to... yet.)

This was pretty well discussed in the media when RH8 came out. The reason for the inability to play MP3 files (along with movies) was Red Hat's unwillingness to play along with the German company that's trying to collect royalties on MPEG implementations and not get labeled as contributing to ``piracy''. Red Hat would be an easy target. A gazillion users (some day... some day) downloading the un-neutered verson of xmms from freshrpms would be too hard to track down.

I recommend Linux SUSE.. Go for it..
It has all the developement stuff u r looking for plus much more..
In fact.. Most people I know use Suse 8 now.
Cheers

i didnt real all these posts, but you can get a terminal by right clicking on the desktop and selecting the Terminal option, or dont opt for graphical login

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1890

I just upgraded Redhat 8.0 to KDE 3.1 and there's no more Bluecurve, just stock KDE. However if you don't like Redhat 8.0, you could always whine about it in a public forum...

AHHH, the winds of change.

Why is everyone acting like SNL's grumpy old man . "I remember back in the day when computer geeks had no choice. We didn't have no fancy-schmancy menu to select from. You got Notepad, WordPad, Control Panel, Windows Explorer, and the Systray whether you like or not,...AND WE LIKED IT!"

Geez, if want the same thing, the same thing, the same thing, you could alway go back to Redmond.

By the way, can someone tell me how to make my Linux desktop like and act like Windows 3.11?

Hey! Why not Windows 1.0 and be really different?

Actually, my window manager is currently doing it best Windows 1.0 imitation. It's called CONTROL-ALT-BACKSPACE!

Have you ever tried Windows 1.0? Getting back to DOS was that only thing it was REAL good at!

There are a number of patent issues regarding mp3's. Please see
http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_80mm.html

I also believe the driver issue also has to do with patents and the Redhat commitment to open source. See for example:

https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail...ay/001013.html

I admire, support, and appreciate this commitment in the true spirit of Linux. Which does not mean to say that I have not enabled playing mp3's (though new music I record in ogg vorbis format) and that I would not use the Nividia drivers if I had a card that used them (though my video card was chosen with regard to availability of open source drivers).

Note, even software such as the Macromedia Flash plugin and Adobe Acrobat Reader (acroread) are not in the "base" system but located on the application CD where a more conscious act is needed to use them.

Personally, my desktop under RH looks substantially like it did under RH6.2, even RH5.2, which is a stripped down gnome installation that started with a CLI only interface (additional RPM's chosen when needed for particular applications) with personally modified init scripts to suit my preferences and of course, my own kernel (which is the only "real Linux" in the system) patched to personal preference. And just to reiterate what other writers in this thread have said, you can make any distribution look and feel however you like.

Geez, it's been so long that I cannot easily remember the CGA graphics resolution. 640x480 2-color wasn't it? But that's not what I was referring to. I meant the tiled (non-overlapping) windows.

Yes. I tried it for about a half hour on my XT as a demo. After opening as many of the toys that Win1.0 came with, I tracked down my boss, and we spent the remainder of the time laughing until our sides hurt. I used to have the Windows 1.0 floppies (they came with a Zenith XT clone) but they've managed to disappear during one of several moves. Wish I still had 'em. A real collector's item.

Thanx for the books man, really needed those

heh... slack 9 is good... i'm getting a t-shirt