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07-25-2016, 03:26 PM
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Poor Kali is attacked by n00bs, again. But, actually, do real "crackers" use Kali? I don't think so. I can only think about weev who said that he uses Debian, though it was long ago.
Last edited by Mitt Green; 07-25-2016 at 03:28 PM.
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07-25-2016, 03:31 PM
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07-25-2016, 03:57 PM
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I read an article on a newspaper website last month about the founder of Facebook which was related to his laptop and security. I then searched on the video site youtube about web camera hacking, and there was a clip that displayed a linux distribution which was kali. So that is where I got the idea from. I wanted to be able to switch the web camera on the laptop in the next room.
I'm not a computer hacker or a script kiddie if that is what is referred to as someone tickering with code for testing security or what ever now. Reminds me of somebody that may know of javascript.
The other system I'm currently using, and migrating over to a Optiplex 780 just installed a copy of Elite force on it, so some games are going to work, next Doom 3. Men in Black the game was the first, I haven't got a keyboard for it just yet.
So may be the Dimension 4600 with a wifi adapter would be more suitable for a partition install, I assume that kali would do that, take a snippet of what is left in the hard drive and XP would be left alone? It has been years since I first and last did a partition.
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07-26-2016, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kalilinuxlivecd
I read an article on a newspaper website last month about the founder of Facebook which was related to his laptop and security. I then searched on the video site youtube about web camera hacking, and there was a clip that displayed a linux distribution which was kali. So that is where I got the idea from. I wanted to be able to switch the web camera on the laptop in the next room.
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There's nothing special about Kali. 'tis simply Debian with its own additional repository (that consists of mostly tools that are present in Debian repos) and a custom GTK theme. You can install the same things on Debian or any other distribution. And certainly before going for some pentesting and security you are required to learn the basics. Even if you can code, this doesn't mean you can hack.
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07-26-2016, 03:39 PM
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Not to mention if a black or gray hat wanted to mess with someone, wouldn't it be easier to have a trail of breadcrumbs leading to the children already in the oven?
http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm
https://www.zoneminder.com/ &c...
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07-26-2016, 03:43 PM
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Does this Debian copy fit on a cd-rw? Or I'll need to get a storage disk for that too. All the systems I have access the web using wifi, so once I install either of these distributions, I would need to activate the adapter, USB one that is. I do remember reading about that some adapters may not work with Kali.
So you're best suggestion is to use this Debian and install some kind of web camera hack tool with it? It would seem simple enough to try the kali first, get the wifi working, and then follow a tutorial on the video site. If it works, great, if not, well nice to give try.
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07-26-2016, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jamison20000e
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Hehe!
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07-26-2016, 03:59 PM
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Debian has a netist )starts CLI only( just over 200mb, CD over 600mb, DVD over 3gb and even a Blu-ray... 
E.g:
https://www.debian.org/CD/
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07-26-2016, 04:04 PM
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http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/i386/iso-cd/
This link there are five different cds?
Can I use the smallest one, that won't contain what I need.
Last edited by anon286; 07-26-2016 at 04:05 PM.
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07-26-2016, 04:07 PM
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07-26-2016, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kalilinuxlivecd
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Yes netinst is CLI only then add from net https://www.debian.org/releases/
keep in mind your wifi may need drivers from non-free blobs https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware e.g: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/un...ding-firmware/
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07-26-2016, 04:14 PM
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I made a mess,,, remember to search wisely and find the swarms... 
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07-26-2016, 04:15 PM
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You mean the net version is a basic install, but requires the net to download the tools?
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07-26-2016, 07:05 PM
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netinst == no desktop or window manager, just CLI.  You add GUI stuff if you want from the net or: to add larger CD\DVD\Blu-ray.iso disks to your offline set i.e: /etc/apt/sources.list
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07-27-2016, 01:12 PM
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I used a universal installer for Kali on a USB with 8GB. Those storage disks are so much smaller than when I bought the first one. Well that is competition and the market place that brings about cool changes over the years.
As for trying to install kali on the Optiplex 270 Pentium 4 with 512MB of RAM. It didn't work out, the graphical interface wouldn't install or live or just a usual install.
The XP system on there notsure if it even works, but the graphical display is all fuzzy. Here are a couple of images.
The system hardly processes unlike with the usual system.
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